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Old 01-08-2007, 09:01 AM
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Thank God, finally a BC race at the important mile and 70 yard distance. To think, now we can add new names to the many immortals who have thrived at that distance.
The race is going to be contested at 1 mile in the future. Monmouth cannot have races at 1 mile due to the track configuration.
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Old 01-08-2007, 09:04 AM
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I think they should have the 2 year old races all on the same day. I also think they need to add a turf sprint as well.
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Old 01-08-2007, 09:08 AM
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The race is going to be contested at 1 mile in the future. Monmouth cannot have races at 1 mile due to the track configuration.
They can & do, but only for 10 starters. The outside posts would be forced into Long Branch with 14.

Either way, this is sick. I'm excited already!
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Old 01-08-2007, 09:10 AM
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They can & do, but only for 10 starters. The outside posts would be forced into Long Branch with 14.

Either way, this is sick. I'm excited already!
Thanks Phil for that info. I didnt know it was limited to only 10 horses.
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Old 01-08-2007, 09:15 AM
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one more day at the races..changing the travel plans of many and putting big bucks into host citys..
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Old 01-08-2007, 09:19 AM
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putting big bucks into host citys..
You mean the entire Monmouth county region.
Not just Oceanport, NJ.

Make sure to take in the Boardwalk, Asbury Park, Long Beach Island, etc.

Springsteen might be playing at the PNC Banks Arts center
if not, you'll have to catch Jon Bon Jovi shopping at the Middletown Target.
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Old 01-08-2007, 09:19 AM
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one more day at the races..changing the travel plans of many and putting big bucks into host citys..

It's funny....Monmouth doesn't really have a " city " so to speak. I guess it is similar to having the race at Belmont in a way.

I guess this means the Friday card will be an improvement from Churchill's ( and Belmont's the previous year ). The 2YO turf race should attract a lot of Euros.
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Old 01-08-2007, 09:26 AM
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It's funny....Monmouth doesn't really have a " city " so to speak. I guess it is similar to having the race at Belmont in a way.

I guess this means the Friday card will be an improvement from Churchill's ( and Belmont's the previous year ). The 2YO turf race should attract a lot of Euros.
one negative to this regarding the 2 year turf race is that a horse like Johannesburg would have never seen the dirt then, IMO
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Old 01-08-2007, 09:28 AM
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The irony of the distance changes... the 7 furlong F&M Sprint going 6 this year, and the mile, is that most racetracks are one mile in circumference. It's the same as the 10 fur F&M Turf... most tracks cannot handle that distance, so it goes to 11f.
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Old 01-08-2007, 09:31 AM
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The whole idea is basically a poor one....but it's the BC....the enemy of major league racing...... so why would it be a good idea?

Starting from the top....the mile. This will dilute the Classic ( not seriously ) and the Sprint in two detrimental ways. One, it will take away somewhat interesting contenders and two it will open the sprint up to more useless vermin that, in theory, doesn't belong in a championship race.

Now, the Filly and Mare sprint. OK, I understand one could argue they sort of " deserve " their own race...however.....fillies and mares have fared VERY well in the BC Sprint over the years and so in reality this race will further rob the BC Sprint of its overall quality.

Now, the 2YO turf race.....I'm sorry, what exactly is the US program that leads up to this race? Some turf maiden races seems to be about it. So this is great, we now have a BC race that caters to US horses that are too slow to run on dirt and Euros. OK, fine, I will personally enjoy this race and maybe the Euros do sort of deserve a race of their own, but don't try and fool me that this was a race that demanded to be run. I like the $250K filly version of this race they are already running and see no reason they shouldn't have run the same purse for the boys. Labeling it a " BC " race does not make any of the contestants better or more important horses.
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Old 01-08-2007, 12:06 PM
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one more day at the races..changing the travel plans of many and putting big bucks into host citys..
I was already going to be there Friday, so this is an added bonus.
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Old 01-08-2007, 09:21 AM
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Awsome idea from the BC standpoint, but:

Of all the years to start this why start it at Monmouth Park?
I think if they were gonna add 3 additional BC races they should be on the same day, but i can see why they want to spread it over 2 days... to maximize profits and exposure to BC and the overall handle. IMO they should just go balls out and put all the races on one card.
Now a long day of racing just turned to be a long 2 days of racing, adding to that, the amount of people who come from all across the world to see the BC every year now have to basically "double" their expenses for the trip.

I think they whole 3 races on friday thing will last for about 2-3 years until they just stick'm into the undercard or just cut the races outright. Who's coming up with this extra $3 million + anyways?

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Old 01-08-2007, 10:34 AM
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The race is going to be contested at 1 mile in the future. Monmouth cannot have races at 1 mile due to the track configuration.
Monmouth has been running one mile races for years. They must like the ring of "The Breeder's Cup Dirt Mile and Seventy Yards".
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Old 01-08-2007, 10:35 AM
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Monmouth has been running one mile races for years. They must like the ring of "The Breeder's Cup Dirt Mile and Seventy Yards".

I think we are all looking forward to next years DrugS Salvatore Mile......and seventy.
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Old 01-08-2007, 10:39 AM
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Enough of this ridiculous BC Turf sprint stuff. Could someone please name me a turf sprinter that deserved to race for a million dollar purse in the last decade, or even two?
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Old 01-08-2007, 10:47 AM
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Enough of this ridiculous BC Turf sprint stuff. Could someone please name me a turf sprinter that deserved to race for a million dollar purse in the last decade, or even two?
Texas Glitter, Stravinsky, elusive quality, johhanesburg, , dayjur, mizzen mast etc
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Old 01-08-2007, 10:49 AM
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Johannesburg ran in a big turf sprint....the July Cup. If you hurry over you can catch him finishing.

Texas Glitter? Come on!
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Old 01-08-2007, 10:52 AM
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Johannesburg ran in a big turf sprint....the July Cup. If you hurry over you can catch him finishing.

Texas Glitter? Come on!

I wasn't annointing them superstars of all time, but you have to admit, a turf sprint is a very interesting race, which would attract a broad mix of horses from both the US and Europe. My response was to the poster who said there are no such horses worthy of racing for a million dollars. That is just not so.
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Old 01-08-2007, 12:57 PM
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I'll give you Stravinsky and maybe Dayjur. Elusive Quality was a decent turf miler, world record holder I believe. Mizzen Mast was pretty good on dirt if I recall, winning the Malibu and Strub, so why would he need a turf sprint?
Mizzen Mast is sooo cool! If you go to Juddmonte's website you can watch his Malibu. (I didn't mean to make that rhyme )
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Old 01-08-2007, 11:35 AM
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Enough of this ridiculous BC Turf sprint stuff. Could someone please name me a turf sprinter that deserved to race for a million dollar purse in the last decade, or even two?
Amen!
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