Did i go too far?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by paisjpq

I agree with absolutely everything you said Nicole...but this made me laugh...when I was little I lost my "reading lamp" and had to leave the door to my bedroom open at night so I couldn't read all night because Bedtime was bedtime.. I can remember my mother talking to the other mothers and their disbelief that she actually punished me for reading

exactly the same with my daughter. people are baffled that i forbid her reading.
but to take away the tv would mean nothing, same as ps2 and computer. she would just read.
i on the other hand.....my mother would punish me be confining me to my room. a fate worse than death.
so, what did i do when not allowed outside? THEN i would read. my poor mother, i was a humming bundle of energy. she hated when it rained, my brother and i drove her nuts when stuck inside.

[Byebyemermaid]

One of the things i like about this board is the varying points of view that all of you have.Let me also state that for any of you that thought i might be offended of the 2 cents you put in,then i would've had no right to post a thread like this.The fact is,i grew up in a very disciplined household.As i've said before my dad is a holocaust survivor and had the pain of seeing his parents get deported which hardened him as a person.This past Saturday night we went over to my brothers house for dinner and later on we went to a comedy club.You guessed it our son did not eat what was put in front of him.As people got done i made him stay at the table and he was not allowed to play with his cousins or sister.Before we left for the club he changed into his pajamas and went to bed having only had 2 glasses of water.I informed my neices that he can't have any snacks or play with them.On Sunday we went out to breakfast and he did eat 4 pancakes and 2 glasses of orange juice.Sunday night we made alphabet pasta.Our daughter ate 3 bowls he struggled with a little.I told my wife you got to be with me on this and not waver and get soft.He's great in school and got almost perfect grades.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Byebyemermaid

One of the things i like about this board is the varying points of view that all of you have.Let me also state that for any of you that thought i might be offended of the 2 cents you put in,then i would've had no right to post a thread like this.The fact is,i grew up in a very disciplined household.As i've said before my dad is a holocaust survivor and had the pain of seeing his parents get deported which hardened him as a person.This past Saturday night we went over to my brothers house for dinner and later on we went to a comedy club.You guessed it our son did not eat what was put in front of him.As people got done i made him stay at the table and he was not allowed to play with his cousins or sister.Before we left for the club he changed into his pajamas and went to bed having only had 2 glasses of water.I informed my neices that he can't have any snacks or play with them.On Sunday we went out to breakfast and he did eat 4 pancakes and 2 glasses of orange juice.Sunday night we made alphabet pasta.Our daughter ate 3 bowls he struggled with a little.I told my wife you got to be with me on this and not waver and get soft.He's great in school and got almost perfect grades.

What does he like to eat? Awesome about him being a good student, by the way.

[Byebyemermaid]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

What does he like to eat? Awesome about him being a good student, by the way.

He'll eat pizza,french fries,pancakes,french toast,dry everything bagel which is his lunch in school and on occasion an onion omellete.Any kind of sweet that goes his way.Our daughter eats everything you put in front of her and whatever she sees new on your plate.When she was 18 months old and we were in Vermont my wife order a cesar salad and they put achovies on it.My wife took them off and our daughter started to eat them to the point where the waiter was amazed and brought ou more only to watch her finish them.She also started to eat Sushi at the same time and i mean flying fish roe,ikura.yellowtail,tuna,white tuna but her favorite is salmon.She can polish off guacamole like nothing.Loves the soup there as well as the seaweed.I joke with my wife that the problem is that when she was pregnant with our son we went out and ate a lot of junk.With our daughter it was salads and fruit.I guess the old you're a product of your environment starts in the womb.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by Byebyemermaid

He'll eat pizza,french fries,pancakes,french toast,dry everything bagel which is his lunch in school and on occasion an onion omellete.Any kind of sweet that goes his way.Our daughter eats everything you put in front of her and whatever she sees new on your plate.When she was 18 months old and we were in Vermont my wife order a cesar salad and they put achovies on it.My wife took them off and our daughter started to eat them to the point where the waiter was amazed and brought ou more only to watch her finish them.She also started to eat Sushi at the same time and i mean flying fish roe,ikura.yellowtail,tuna,white tuna but her favorite is salmon.She can polish off guacamole like nothing.Loves the soup there as well as the seaweed.I joke with my wife that the problem is that when she was pregnant with our son we went out and ate a lot of junk.With our daughter it was salads and fruit.I guess the old you're a product of your environment starts in the womb.

Hey Mark,
I put some "kid friendly recipes" in the Derby trail Cookbook. Let him pick one out. Make it together. You'll both have fun, and he'll eat it, even if it's burned to a crisp.
Enjoy!
DTS

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Byebyemermaid

He'll eat pizza,french fries,pancakes,french toast,dry everything bagel which is his lunch in school and on occasion an onion omellete.Any kind of sweet that goes his way.Our daughter eats everything you put in front of her and whatever she sees new on your plate.When she was 18 months old and we were in Vermont my wife order a cesar salad and they put achovies on it.My wife took them off and our daughter started to eat them to the point where the waiter was amazed and brought ou more only to watch her finish them.She also started to eat Sushi at the same time and i mean flying fish roe,ikura.yellowtail,tuna,white tuna but her favorite is salmon.She can polish off guacamole like nothing.Loves the soup there as well as the seaweed.I joke with my wife that the problem is that when she was pregnant with our son we went out and ate a lot of junk.With our daughter it was salads and fruit.I guess the old you're a product of your environment starts in the womb.

So it sounds like he's a real fan of the simple carbohydrate. Problem I can see down the road is that they produce sugar highs, then sugar crashes- they're not great for maintaining a set energy level.

I can empathize- my aunt nicknamed me "Carbohydrate Kid" when I was growing up. My brother was much better about varying his diet. Sweeter fruits and veggies were helpful for balancing my diet- I liked oranges (and tangerines, especially) and carrots. You can get fruit preserves that are only fruit- no added sugar- maybe he can be induced to try a whole wheat bagel with fruit preserves at some point, to replace the white flour everything bagel. I think you can buy whole wheat pancake mix, too.

That's tough, though-- the simple carb addiction is a lifelong kind of thing. And it really messes with your energy later. I should know.

[Danzig]

whole grains much, much better than that bleached processed crap.
but all pre-packaged food is bad.

BUT, your body doesn't know a carb from a sugar--other than fiber of course. carbs is carbs, and they all turn into fat if your body doesn't process all of it.
also, no fat is crap--they replace fat with sugar. so you don't take in fat, your body will however make it with that sugar you're eating.

eat like the caveman, you'll do just fine!

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

whole grains much, much better than that bleached processed crap.
but all pre-packaged food is bad.

BUT, your body doesn't know a carb from a sugar--other than fiber of course. carbs is carbs, and they all turn into fat if your body doesn't process all of it.
also, no fat is crap--they replace fat with sugar. so you don't take in fat, your body will however make it with that sugar you're eating.

eat like the caveman, you'll do just fine!

True 'dat, but the simple carbs produce a quick insulin spike and then a quick drop. At least the complex ones, like whole grains, as you mentioned, take longer for the body to process.

I also find I'm very moody when I'm having insulin spikes and drops. BBM, if your son is moody at all, replacing some simple carbs with whole grains might help. Moodiness, that is, beyond the usual, I'm eight years old moodiness.

I agree that a no-fat diet is bad. Plus, there are some vitamins that are fat-soluble, so you need fat for the body to absorb them. One of the downsides (along with the runs) to the Olestra stuff is that it makes it hard for the body to absorb fat soluble vitamins, like Vitamin A.

Oh, raising the picky eater-- I don't know how my dad managed not to kill me. I did discover the joys of fruit in high school, and becoming a strict vegetarian in my '20s saved my eating habits, as I learned to love vegetables.

[Byebyemermaid]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

So it sounds like he's a real fan of the simple carbohydrate. Problem I can see down the road is that they produce sugar highs, then sugar crashes- they're not great for maintaining a set energy level.

I can empathize- my aunt nicknamed me "Carbohydrate Kid" when I was growing up. My brother was much better about varying his diet. Sweeter fruits and veggies were helpful for balancing my diet- I liked oranges (and tangerines, especially) and carrots. You can get fruit preserves that are only fruit- no added sugar- maybe he can be induced to try a whole wheat bagel with fruit preserves at some point, to replace the white flour everything bagel. I think you can buy whole wheat pancake mix, too.

That's tough, though-- the simple carb addiction is a lifelong kind of thing. And it really messes with your energy later. I should know.

I tried to give him Life cereal this morning and he didn't want it.Who doesen't like life cereal.Remember this was a kid who at age 2.5 to 4 ate herring with onions in wine sauce.

[Danzig]

i love life cereal! and cinnamon life. hell, gimme any kind of cereal, it's all good!
well...it was. i don't eat it anymore.