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[Eclipse]

Originally Posted by JolyB

When you are playing our points contest, you only need to enter the "1" one time. This is true whether you like the "1" part of the entry or the "1A" part. It is also true if you like BOTH haves of the entry. Only put in "1" once.

Thanks again, but what about in the points contest if I like both parts of an entry, but think one will finish 1st and the other 3rd? Or 1st and 2nd, or 2nd and 3rd. Where would I put the 1?

[DonGuido]

Originally Posted by Eclipse

Thanks again, but what about in the points contest if I like both parts of an entry, but think one will finish 1st and the other 3rd? Or 1st and 2nd, or 2nd and 3rd. Where would I put the 1?

Youd have to decide which horse has the best chance of coming in 1st 2nd or 3rd. Think of the 1 and 1A as one horse. If you like the 1A better just put a 1 in the position you like. Many times but not always one of the coupled horse entries will get scratched but you still have the other in the position you selected.

Again thing of the 1 and 1A or 2 and 2A as one horse. Hope this helps.

[Eclipse]

Originally Posted by DonGuido

Youd have to decide which horse has the best chance of coming in 1st 2nd or 3rd. Think of the 1 and 1A as one horse. If you like the 1A better just put a 1 in the position you like. Many times but not always one of the coupled horse entries will get scratched but you still have the other in the position you selected.

Again thing of the 1 and 1A or 2 and 2A as one horse. Hope this helps.

Ahhhh, they're not one horse though, and most likely will not finish in the same position. So would it be impossible to hit an exacta or trifecta if both parts of an entry finish in the top 3?

[cal828]

Originally Posted by Eclipse

Ahhhh, they're not one horse though, and most likely will not finish in the same position. So would it be impossible to hit an exacta or trifecta if both parts of an entry finish in the top 3?

You guys have got me confused about this now. Haven't seen it happen in a while, but I think what happens if both horses of an entry finish first and second then the horse that finishes first is the winner, but they skip the part of the entry that finished second and move down to the third place finisher for the exacta and even the fourth place for the tri, but surprisingly, I haven't seen this happen in awhile and what I am saying may be wrong. I would bet that RQ knows this and maybe he will chime in.

[JolyB]

Originally Posted by cal828

You guys have got me confused about this now. Haven't seen it happen in a while, but I think what happens if both horses of an entry finish first and second then the horse that finishes first is the winner, but they skip the part of the entry that finished second and move down to the third place finisher for the exacta and even the fourth place for the tri, but surprisingly, I haven't seen this happen in awhile and what I am saying may be wrong. I would bet that RQ knows this and maybe he will chime in.

Cal, your description is 100% correct. It seems to happen frequently at NYRA tracks for some reason, especially during the Aqueduct winter meet. What also happens is that horse that ends up on the bottom of the exacta does not get a place payoff, since the entry took all of the place payoff.

A wagering situation that I have found can be profitable is a situation where the entry has been made the betting favorite in the win pool and where both halves of the entry appear to be contenders. I've often played the entry to place and have been happy to see the entry finish in the first and second positions. When that happens, the entry gets the only payout from the place pool and that can result in a place payout that might be a little bit higher than the win payoff, with much less risk involved.