Weekend Stakes Beyers: Medina Spirit 102; Malathaat 95

[blackthroatedwind]

I don’t know why it’s so hard to understand that Beyer figs are final time Figs, Freddy, and that horses that set excruciating paces will always run final time figures lower than the actual performance they gave. There was zero chance Jackie’s Warrior was going to get a big final time fig given that pace. He and the runner up ran huge. The Beyer fig was never going to tell that story. I honestly cannot understand why you keep harping on this.

It’s the opposite of raising figs because super slow fractions make fast final times impossible, something you see far more frequently in turf races.

[fantini33]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I don’t know why it’s so hard to understand that Beyer figs are final time Figs, Freddy, and that horses that set excruciating paces will always run final time figures lower than the actual performance they gave. There was zero chance Jackie’s Warrior was going to get a big final time fig given that pace. He and the runner up ran huge. The Beyer fig was never going to tell that story. I honestly cannot understand why you keep harping on this.

It’s the opposite of raising figs because super slow fractions make fast final times impossible, something you see far more frequently in turf races.

Timeform Figures illustrate this perfectly. The numbers ARE derived from pace. The winner doesn’t always end up with the highest fig. It opened my eyes to an entirely better way of judging performances.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by fantini33

Timeform Figures illustrate this perfectly. The numbers ARE derived from pace. The winner doesn’t always end up with the highest fig. It opened my eyes to an entirely better way of judging performances.

Better is a tricky word. Different and worth comparing to try to determine why they sometimes disagree

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Better is a tricky word. Different and worth comparing to try to determine why they sometimes disagree

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

Hey Dunbar...I’ve been meaning to ask. How’d your future wagering go this year?

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Hey Dunbar...I’ve been meaning to ask. How’d your future wagering go this year?

I lost. I guess to you that means I made a bad bet, right?

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

I lost. I guess to you that means I made a bad bet, right?

Maybe, maybe not. It depends.

I still maintain chasing 2-1 on a future bet is ridiculous but no need to go back down that road again