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Old 04-22-2021, 07:10 PM
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The DRF chart calling termed it slight contact. If there was NO contact I think you would always be able to see light between the two horses. Which clearly wasn't there.

You might want to slow it down to super slow mo or even frame by frame. I've seen a whole lot of stretch runs looking for contact. In that race there most definitely was.
Who cares what the chart says? The Tampa chart caller is horrible. Anyone that does replay work will attest that he’s horrible at his job. Chart caller LMAO...

The optics were bad, I get that, but the rider on the runner up didn’t flinch, he just rode all the way through. Wouldn’t he at least have reacted if he was bumped in to?

Either way, no one here can say they haven’t seen MUCH worse stay up almost daily. This was a bad rider getting taken down because the leasing rider claimed foul.
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Old 04-22-2021, 07:11 PM
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I’m going to compliment you though Vic. You’ve managed to not make this all about you...yet.

Congrats!
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Old 04-22-2021, 07:44 PM
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Finally got around to watching this. That was a pretty bad DQ. How do you justify something like that to the betting public?
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Old 04-22-2021, 07:57 PM
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Finally got around to watching this. That was a pretty bad DQ. How do you justify something like that to the betting public?
I know the optics looked bad but in reality it was just race riding. Just tough watching worse everyday that stays up
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Old 04-23-2021, 04:19 AM
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The margin was a nose, if even that (literally a bob). There was contact and the 5 was pushed out 1.5-2 paths. The 5 had all the momentum and the 4 would have come down even in the stringent of jurisdictions. I've seen some egregious DQs, but this is a non-story.
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Old 04-23-2021, 06:32 AM
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The margin was a nose, if even that (literally a bob). There was contact and the 5 was pushed out 1.5-2 paths. The 5 had all the momentum and the 4 would have come down even in the stringent of jurisdictions. I've seen some egregious DQs, but this is a non-story.
1.5-2 paths?

You watch the right race?
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Old 04-23-2021, 07:01 AM
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The margin was a nose, if even that (literally a bob). There was contact and the 5 was pushed out 1.5-2 paths. The 5 had all the momentum and the 4 would have come down even in the stringent of jurisdictions. I've seen some egregious DQs, but this is a non-story.
My problem with the DQ is that the contact and/or foul is not even really noticeable on the pan shot. I don't see the 5 get slowed or change its stride, so I have trouble believing that what the 4 did actually impacted the 5 or changed the result of the race, even with the small margin. (The flipside to this is, I also don't want to see jockeys exaggerating things to try to sell it to the stewards, which we also see some times and I can't stand.)

I guess the finish is close enough for the steward's the make this call, but I don't agree this would have been a DQ in every racing jurisdiction. I suppose it could be, but steward decisions are inconsistent enough that it's really hard to know how this would have been decided elsewhere.
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Old 04-23-2021, 07:48 AM
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I dont necessarily agree with the DQ but the four horse moved over multiple paths and made contact with the other runner. I fault the jock on the 4 for not controlling his runner as he was headed straight near the wire but his actions with the reins seemed to move his runner to the right. The left rein is slapping the horses neck. Would the slight contact and the jocks actions weigh in on the stewards ruling? Im just asking, I agree with Moses that this most likely would not be a DQ in most jurisdictions, unless of course, it was the horse I wagered on
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