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Old 01-31-2021, 06:13 AM
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Easy Goer and Sunday Silence face each other in 1990.
That was the big one for me, except I'd want to add in Criminal Type, who had beaten each of them early in 1990, while getting a weight break.
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Old 01-31-2021, 11:09 AM
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That was the big one for me, except I'd want to add in Criminal Type, who had beaten each of them early in 1990, while getting a weight break.
What a laugher horse racing has become.

The Hollywood Gold Cup in June 1990 brought together the winners of the Santa Anita Handicap, the Met Mile, the Pimlico Special, the Oaklawn Handicap, the Gulfstream Park Handicap, the Californian, the San Bernardino, the San Antonio, the San Pasqual, and the Razorback. And we're not talking about past accomplishments. The races listed above were won in 1990.

For comparison, last year's Gold Cup brought together the winners of the San Pasqual and the Curlin Stakes (run at Meydan). Those were the only 2 wins recorded at all up to that point in 2020. Four of the six starters were winless in 2020.

A heartfelt thanks to all the super trainers, ex-claiming trainers, syndicates, racing managers, large ownership groups, and commercial breeding operations for eroding the competitive nature of the sport while keeping the prestige of these once major races on life support so that you can artificially prop up the initial stud fees of your stallion prospects for the first couple of seasons before you sell them off to foreign interests when they don't produce at the yearling sales.
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Old 01-31-2021, 11:54 AM
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Normandy Invasion in the Preakness would have been something to behold
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Old 01-31-2021, 03:51 PM
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A heartfelt thanks to all the super trainers, ex-claiming trainers, syndicates, racing managers, large ownership groups, and commercial breeding operations for eroding the competitive nature of the sport while keeping the prestige of these once major races on life support so that you can artificially prop up the initial stud fees of your stallion prospects for the first couple of seasons before you sell them off to foreign interests when they don't produce at the yearling sales.
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Old 01-31-2021, 03:20 PM
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That was the big one for me, except I'd want to add in Criminal Type, who had beaten each of them early in 1990, while getting a weight break.
Absolutely. I'm getting old but I seem to remember that there was a race set for Arlington that summer that was trying to get them all together. Would have been great.
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Old 01-31-2021, 03:29 PM
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Absolutely. I'm getting old but I seem to remember that there was a race set for Arlington that summer that was trying to get them all together. Would have been great.
Originally it was being set up for Sunday Silence and Easy Goer to meet, but then when Criminal Type beat them both separately, they added him....then they all got hurt ( of course ).
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Old 01-31-2021, 04:43 PM
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Originally it was being set up for Sunday Silence and Easy Goer to meet, but then when Criminal Type beat them both separately, they added him....then they all got hurt ( of course ).
They weren't going to beat Beau Genius anyways. Won like 10 stakes from 6f to 10f that year.

Couldn't handle a three-pronged duel in the BC Classic between him, Thirty Six Red, and Dispersal after a half mile in :45+, though.

Of course, if he ran nowadays Beau Genius would have walked on the lead. Dispersal would have been in the BC Dirt Mile and Thirty Six Red would have been arbitrarily retired after running off the board in the KY Derby presuming Coolmore or Winstar had bought his breeding rights after he won the Gotham and Wood Memorial (gotta protect his reputation and their investment).
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What Maclean’s Music would have looked like in his next few starts.
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Any or all of Rachel Alexandra's races in 2009.
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Old 02-03-2021, 06:20 AM
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Any or all of Rachel Alexandra's races in 2009.
They’re all on YouTube
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