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Old 01-02-2007, 07:24 PM
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But he sure looks good in the winners circle at $500,000 a shot last year.
Yes he does but the most important "shot" may not be available in Dubai.....unless you are owned by the home team, of course.
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Old 01-02-2007, 08:02 PM
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Old 01-02-2007, 08:07 PM
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Yes he does but the most important "shot" may not be available in Dubai.....unless you are owned by the home team, of course.
well now...he could get one of the other 'shots' that the competition got last year...the one's that 'relaxed' them...did anyone ever investigate that?
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Old 01-02-2007, 08:16 PM
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well now...he could get one of the other 'shots' that the competition got last year...the one's that 'relaxed' them...did anyone ever investigate that?
What I heard is that because the trainer did the tests on his own, they don't exist for the local racing authorities and in fact the authorities are debarred from taking any action based on tests they did not order. Some sort of catch-22 situation like that as I recall.
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Old 01-02-2007, 08:19 PM
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What I heard is that because the trainer did the tests on his own, they don't exist for the local racing authorities and in fact the authorities are debarred from taking any action based on tests they did not order. Some sort of catch-22 situation like that as I recall.
nice...damned if you do damned if you don't...
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Old 01-03-2007, 09:01 AM
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I like the move. I think he's got the right style to be something nice on the grass in top company. I think it fits him better than the dirt races do. Obviously, there are the questions on how he's going to ship but the only way to find out how he'll like Dubai is to send him there. I think the conditions of the races he's shipped to have had as much to do with his performances as any issues with the actual shipping. We'll see. One thing I absolutely would not do though is ship him there early and let him get acclimated. Either he's going to like the surface or he's not. If he does, u don't need to get him acclimated. If he doesn't, the best showing he'll have over it is the first chance. If a horse doesn't like a track, having them train over it only gives them more time to build up their dislike for it.
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Old 01-03-2007, 09:04 AM
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If Lava Man wins, it will be because the horses were bad or he got loose on the lead, or all the other horses in the race had excuses, yadda yadda yadda.
Nobody will admit the horse is just plain very good. Kind of reminds me of the Tin Man. No respect, no respect.
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Old 01-03-2007, 09:15 AM
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hes a great claim and in his own yard a very formidable opponent..but ..he does not travel well..and this trip has taken down many a better horse than him..they would probebly do well to stay home...grass or not he does not do well traveling..but hey load up if he goes it will just help me out as unless hes running vs zippy chippy hes a play against on the road..
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Old 01-03-2007, 09:41 AM
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I like the move. I think he's got the right style to be something nice on the grass in top company. I think it fits him better than the dirt races do. Obviously, there are the questions on how he's going to ship but the only way to find out how he'll like Dubai is to send him there. I think the conditions of the races he's shipped to have had as much to do with his performances as any issues with the actual shipping. We'll see. One thing I absolutely would not do though is ship him there early and let him get acclimated. Either he's going to like the surface or he's not. If he does, u don't need to get him acclimated. If he doesn't, the best showing he'll have over it is the first chance. If a horse doesn't like a track, having them train over it only gives them more time to build up their dislike for it.


I assumed you were consulted on the decision.

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