Venue for Nov 28, thoughts

[RUFFIAN]

California Dreamin In My Ole Kentucky Home

[cal828]

It's a shame they couldn't have run the Clark at Churchill on Saturday. I was thinking that we had played it in the past. There's really no hope for a person when you start remembering things that didn't happen.

[NJ Stinks]

Originally Posted by cal828

It's a shame they couldn't have run the Clark at Churchill on Saturday. I was thinking that we had played it in the past. There's really no hope for a person when you start remembering things that didn't happen.

If it makes you feel a bit better, Cal, I have played the race quite often in the past! I did think it was run the Friday after Thanksgiving because a buddy and I went to a PA OTB near Bethlehem often on a Thanksgiving Friday. I think Thanksgiving Saturday was/is a day with a bunch of 2 year old races.

[cal828]

Originally Posted by NJ Stinks

If it makes you feel a bit better, Cal, I have played the race quite often in the past! I did think it was run the Friday after Thanksgiving because a buddy and I went to a PA OTB near Bethlehem often on a Thanksgiving Friday. I think Thanksgiving Saturday was/is a day with a bunch of 2 year old races.

I've played it a few times too, but sometimes hard for me to remember what I did a few hours ago and almost impossible to remember what I did last year, but ask me where I was when JFK was assassinated and what was going on then and I remember it clear as day. Course I was only 19 then. Seems like eons have passed since those days and speaking of that, was it not 11/22/63? I don't think I saw a thing in the news media about it. Is it possible that America has forgotten or did I just miss it?

[JolyB]

Originally Posted by cal828

but ask me where I was when JFK was assassinated and what was going on then and I remember it clear as day. Course I was only 19 then. Seems like eons have passed since those days and speaking of that, was it not 11/22/63? I don't think I saw a thing in the news media about it. Is it possible that America has forgotten or did I just miss it?

The only mention of 11/22 being the anniversary of JFK's assassination in our local paper was a one sentence entry in the "Today in History" area that AP puts together. It received exactly the same mention as today's entry of 11/24/63 when Jack Ruby shot and killed Lee Harvey Oswald while live TV cameras were rolling.

Perhaps the noise from a combination of the never ending election cycle and the COVID-19 pandemic have just drowned out everything else; I've had the belief for some time that we don't spend enough time learning about either our history or about basic civics, and we are the worse off for that.

[cal828]

Originally Posted by JolyB

The only mention of 11/22 being the anniversary of JFK's assassination in our local paper was a one sentence entry in the "Today in History" area that AP puts together. It received exactly the same mention as today's entry of 11/24/63 when Jack Ruby shot and killed Lee Harvey Oswald while live TV cameras were rolling.

Perhaps the noise from a combination of the never ending election cycle and the COVID-19 pandemic have just drowned out everything else; I've had the belief for some time that we don't spend enough time learning about either our history or about basic civics, and we are the worse off for that.

I agree, but I am biased toward learning history having taken Western Civ, U.S History, Russian History, African History, History of the South and Political Science which in my view was just more history.

[DonGuido]

Originally Posted by cal828

I agree, but I am biased toward learning history having taken Western Civ, U.S History, Russian History, African History, History of the South and Political Science which in my view was just more history.

WOW that is just crazy to me anyway. I've learned more about history after being out of school than in it. But that's just me. BTW growing up is up state NY, I m quite buff on Indian, Iroquois Nation history. My father was a Indian artifacts pro for most f his adult life. Interestingly enough when I was at Clemson, we lived near Seneca, South Carolina. The small city/town was named after the Seneca tribe that was part of the Iroquois Nation until they probably got tired of the wicked winters (smart Indians) and migrated to South Carolina.

The writings and history of the Iroquois Nation which covered most of New York, went east and quite far up into Canada was a very well developed, governed and managed sub-nation made of up of many different tribes. You may have read or heard of the "Long Houses' they held their tribal meetings in. It's also said that they played a game much like lacrosse is played today. They were much more advanced than most understand. When the "White Man" came, invaded and settled in those areas it was basically destroyed.

Footnote: my father had an Indian artifacts collection larger than the local historic museum in the area. After he died I agreed to basically donate it all to them for a very small fee to cover moving it all there and a Starbucks. Starbucks, HA HA HA, just kidding.