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Old 01-02-2007, 12:40 PM
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Someone please remind the O neill barn that all medications must cease at least 30 days out from the race. We don't need another Brass Hat fiasco.
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Old 01-02-2007, 12:55 PM
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I think there is a difference in bashing Lava Man and being realistic. I think most have the opinion that shipping Lava Man to Dubai is not best for the horse. I think he could stay in Cali and dominate on that scene and pocket another 1-2 million
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Old 01-02-2007, 01:12 PM
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Someone please remind the O neill barn that all medications must cease at least 30 days out from the race. We don't need another Brass Hat fiasco.
That could turn out to be Lava Man's biggest undoing.
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Old 01-02-2007, 02:32 PM
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Lava Man has never shipped and won on dirt. Now that he is turf only, why not try. He ran two pretty decent turf races last year from what I remember. I'm not too confident, but we complain when horses don't run and now we complain when horses are planning to run. I say ship him and run...that is the purpose of the game. If he gets destroyed...who cares??
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Old 01-02-2007, 03:47 PM
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Someone please remind the O neill barn that all medications must cease at least 30 days out from the race. We don't need another Brass Hat fiasco.
That is not a completely true statement , you can work on Lasix up to 10 days out from the race , Im not sure about the withdrawl times for bute and so forth , but I know Lasix is 10 days . Pleasantly Perfect and The Tin Hombre both worked at least once on lasix in dubai before their races.
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Old 01-02-2007, 06:56 PM
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Someone please remind the O neill barn that all medications must cease at least 30 days out from the race. We don't need another Brass Hat fiasco.
I was thinking the same thing
I only saw him train a few times this fall but he isn't the smoothest looking thing in the A.M.
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Old 01-02-2007, 07:16 PM
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I was thinking the same thing
I only saw him train a few times this fall but he isn't the smoothest looking thing in the A.M.
But he sure looks good in the winners circle at $500,000 a shot last year.
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Old 01-02-2007, 07:24 PM
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But he sure looks good in the winners circle at $500,000 a shot last year.
Yes he does but the most important "shot" may not be available in Dubai.....unless you are owned by the home team, of course.
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Old 01-02-2007, 08:02 PM
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Old 01-02-2007, 08:07 PM
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Yes he does but the most important "shot" may not be available in Dubai.....unless you are owned by the home team, of course.
well now...he could get one of the other 'shots' that the competition got last year...the one's that 'relaxed' them...did anyone ever investigate that?
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Old 01-02-2007, 08:16 PM
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well now...he could get one of the other 'shots' that the competition got last year...the one's that 'relaxed' them...did anyone ever investigate that?
What I heard is that because the trainer did the tests on his own, they don't exist for the local racing authorities and in fact the authorities are debarred from taking any action based on tests they did not order. Some sort of catch-22 situation like that as I recall.
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Old 01-02-2007, 08:19 PM
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What I heard is that because the trainer did the tests on his own, they don't exist for the local racing authorities and in fact the authorities are debarred from taking any action based on tests they did not order. Some sort of catch-22 situation like that as I recall.
nice...damned if you do damned if you don't...
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