FBI Raids at Calder and Palm Meadows

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Dubb is supposed to know better. Winning is a lot more fun than losing

But he doesn't. Aside from a rather brief time when he used Joe Orseno about 15 years ago, Dubb's primary New York trainer has always been among the "suspects of the day." Against this backdrop, it is very disappointing when media who are supposed to know better try to portray him and the other "juice owners" that comprise the clientele of trainers like Servis and Navarro as "sharp" when the reality is that they are the game's more ethically challenged owners.

I'd love to have someone ask Mike Repole why he starting using Rudy and Navarro in the past year. Trying to keep up with the Dubbs?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

But he doesn't. Aside from a rather brief time when he used Joe Orseno about 15 years ago, Dubb's primary New York trainer has always been among the "suspects of the day." Against this backdrop, it is very disappointing when media who are supposed to know better try to portray him and the other "juice owners" that comprise the clientele of trainers like Servis and Navarro as "sharp" when the reality is that they are the game's more ethically challenged owners.

I'd love to have someone ask Mike Repole why he starting using Rudy and Navarro in the past year. Trying to keep up with the Dubbs?

Repole is a bad example he has given a lot of smallish trainers in NY a shot

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Repole is a bad example he has given a lot of smallish trainers in NY a shot

Not really. He gave Levine some horses and while my memory isn’t what it used to be, it’s been mostly Pletcher for close to a decade.

Within the last year he’s spread a little but the fact he sent Navarro horses AFTER the juiceman video and AFTER all of his medications overages is a really bad look.

[bare it all]

I'm looking at a bunch of these owners using some of these trainers and claiming "I DIDNT KNOW" as the clueless partner in a relationship with a cheater. I've seen men/women refuse to accept they were cheated on despite mountains of evidence until a baby with a paternity test proving it shows up.

The FBI just dropped the paternity test off to these owners and they're SHOCKED they were cheated on and lied to...

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Not really. He gave Levine some horses and while my memory isn’t what it used to be, it’s been mostly Pletcher for close to a decade.

Within the last year he’s spread a little but the fact he sent Navarro horses AFTER the juiceman video and AFTER all of his medications overages is a really bad look.

Yep bad look for sure

[goodcopy]

For the horse and all aspects of training boarding and vet care!
Certainly, we can agree that all people indicated in race-fixing or race "Doping" should be "Cut Loose" Fired and immediately suspended and ran off all tracks.
Let's get all the facts, prosecute with honest due diligence and get rid of this and get on with the "Sport of Kings"
Stop acting like this is a bush track in Alabama and realize that this is at the very root of the game and the gambling that makes it go.
This is a watershed moment for this industry but I know of many very smart people and people with absolute honesty that can take charge of this and get us a national drug-testing program recognize the world over and get me back trying to hit that damm cross country pick 5

[ONTHERAIL]

Interesting how Dubb dumped Rudy when his numbers went down yet he knew nothing. Lol. Even more interesting that Rudy must have found out last year when they were investigating as he went from a 30% trainer to 15% overnight.

[casp0555]

Originally Posted by ONTHERAIL

Interesting how Dubb dumped Rudy when his numbers went down yet he knew nothing. Lol. Even more interesting that Rudy must have found out last year when they were investigating as he went from a 30% trainer to 15% overnight.

....I have become suspicious of just about everything. I know there are good people in racing but I cant get that $hitty taste out of my mouth when I watch a race now. Its disgusting that my perception over rules the reality of the game to the point that it is almost ruined for me. Maybe I just too ignorant of the game and just need to take a break for awhile

"Perception is Reality. ... be they your peers, subordinates, or superiors, how they perceive you is reality to them—and how you perceive yourself has nothing to do with it. It means that your behaviors and their results matter infinitely more than your intentions"

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by ONTHERAIL

Interesting how Dubb dumped Rudy when his numbers went down yet he knew nothing. Lol. Even more interesting that Rudy must have found out last year when they were investigating as he went from a 30% trainer to 15% overnight.

Rudy still trains for Dubb (they have a horse running tomorrow) and was never a 30% trainer. His highest winning % was 26 in his first year of training, 2010. He’s been between 17-20% for the last 5 years.

Having said that, Dubb’s horses with Rudy always seem to run a bit better than Rudy’s other horses.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

But he doesn't. Aside from a rather brief time when he used Joe Orseno about 15 years ago, Dubb's primary New York trainer has always been among the "suspects of the day." Against this backdrop, it is very disappointing when media who are supposed to know better try to portray him and the other "juice owners" that comprise the clientele of trainers like Servis and Navarro as "sharp" when the reality is that they are the game's more ethically challenged owners.

I'd love to have someone ask Mike Repole why he starting using Rudy and Navarro in the past year. Trying to keep up with the Dubbs?

So I can talk about it now because I'm no longer under him, but my former boss is Dubb's brother in law. I really had to bite my tongue whenever we talked about his upcoming races due to his questionable trainer choices. He knows.

[Kasept]

Dennis Drazin statement: https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.co...rvis-trainees/