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[RUFFIAN]

(Don) “One maiden never hurts!”

Unless she is Sleeping Beauty and falls asleep on you!

QUESTION
I see there are two divisions of the Risen Star
What is their process to decide which Horses go in which division

[DonGuido]

Originally Posted by RUFFIAN-333

(Don) “One maiden never hurts!”

Unless she is Sleeping Beauty and falls asleep on you!

QUESTION
I see there are two divisions of the Risen Star
What is their process to decide which Horses go in which division

I would postulate (been waiting awhile to use that word) that you look at all the horses in the two divisions as one race and pick points and wager that way . . . naaaaah, that won't work. We just make the two divisions as two independent races.

Any other thoughts on this are welcome!!!

[RUFFIAN]

That isn’t what I was asking

What I meant was
How do the track Stewards determine which horses
they put into which division
since the purse is the same + the distance is the same in both

[DonGuido]

Originally Posted by RUFFIAN-333

That isn’t what I was asking

What I meant was
How do the track Stewards determine which horses
they put into which division
since the purse is the same + the distance is the same in both

Hmmmm, no idea . . . pull names out of a hat??? Maybe by the order of when they signed up to run in the race?

[JolyB]

Originally Posted by RUFFIAN-333

That isn’t what I was asking

What I meant was
How do the track Stewards determine which horses
they put into which division
since the purse is the same + the distance is the same in both

Ruff, I'm pretty sure that when the Stewards determine that there are so many entrants that they run the race in 2 divisions, they have a random draw to determine who runs in which division. Then they have the additional draws for post positions. Any other process could lead to allegations that Horse X was intentionally placed in an easier division to provide a benefit to a favored owner or trainer.

I seem to recall from earlier years that Derby qualifying points are affected by having a race run in two divisions. The number of points awarded to the top finishers is smaller than if that race had not been run in two divisions. I think that is provided in the small print of the rules for Derby qualification. What I don't know is exactly how many points will be on the line for the Risen Star.

Hope that answers your question.

[JolyB]

Originally Posted by JolyB

Ruff, I'm pretty sure that when the Stewards determine that there are so many entrants that they run the race in 2 divisions, they have a random draw to determine who runs in which division. Then they have the additional draws for post positions. Any other process could lead to allegations that Horse X was intentionally placed in an easier division to provide a benefit to a favored owner or trainer.

I seem to recall from earlier years that Derby qualifying points are affected by having a race run in two divisions. The number of points awarded to the top finishers is smaller than if that race had not been run in two divisions. I think that is provided in the small print of the rules for Derby qualification. What I don't know is exactly how many points will be on the line for the Risen Star.

Hope that answers your question.

I need to correct myself. According to the Bloodhorse:

"Each race will be contested for the advertised $400,000 purse, and per Road to the Kentucky Derby rules, the two stakes will both offer 85 qualifying points [50-20-10-5] toward Kentucky Derby"

[JolyB]

This is completely off topic and I apologize to any who aren't baseball fans looking forward to Spring.

Many pay attention to groundhog day, but for me the surest sign of the passing of the dreaded winter and the approach of the unsure spring is the day on which PITCHERS AND CATCHERS REPORT. For most teams, that day is today.

Thank you.

[DonGuido]

Originally Posted by JolyB

This is completely off topic and I apologize to any who aren't baseball fans looking forward to Spring.

Many pay attention to groundhog day, but for me the surest sign of the passing of the dreaded winter and the approach of the unsure spring is the day on which PITCHERS AND CATCHERS REPORT. For most teams, that day is today.

Thank you.

Well it's likely Spring in Surprise, AZ anyway, but not here in North Texas . . wet and cold. It's been a VERY wet winter. The sound of a hardball smacking into the center of the cather's mit at 90 mph is pretty awesome.