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Old 06-23-2019, 10:48 AM
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I’m glad that Stronach has finally addressed the root of the problem.
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Old 06-23-2019, 12:41 PM
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Are you all saying Hollendorfer is not the reason for HIS STABLE's breakdowns?
think the 800 lb. gorilla in the room is not Stronach here. This is certainly more serious than just giving him a pass.
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Old 06-23-2019, 12:54 PM
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Are you all saying Hollendorfer is not the reason for HIS STABLE's breakdowns?
think the 800 lb. gorilla in the room is not Stronach here. This is certainly more serious than just giving him a pass.
It just seems convenient the day after that silly CNN hatchet job that TSG bans Hollendorfer.

I think trainers are....or at least were part of the problem at Santa Anita this winter. I think they were running and training horses that should not have been running or training. But to isolate Hollendorfer seems like TSG is looking to place the blame on anyone and everyone but themselves.

They fired the racing secretary. They forced the track super out. They had people hustling entries of horses that shouldn’t have been running in order to create big fields for the jackpot bet and they were the ones sealing the track.

Lots of blame here. Hollendorfer is the convenient bad guy. Maybe he really is but I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle.
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Old 06-23-2019, 01:00 PM
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Are you all saying Hollendorfer is not the reason for HIS STABLE's breakdowns?
think the 800 lb. gorilla in the room is not Stronach here. This is certainly more serious than just giving him a pass.
Show us the statistics you used in saying Hollendorfer is the problem? Is his breakdown rate so far out of the norm from other trainers that he needs to be singled out? Stronach Group is the absolute problem , it is the track. What has changed here? California has had unprecedented amount of rain during this meet. Could it be that the track simply cannot handle it? Stronach Group is the absolute problem. Still trying to hold on to the Breeders Cup after all this instead of shutting it down and rebuilding the track and after each breakdown they give us a new knee jerk reaction and another scapegoat.
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Old 06-23-2019, 06:09 PM
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If you have not seen this some good points made about the mess in California and the deflecting blame and lack of responsibility by the $tronach.Group.....https://thepressboxlts.com/cleaning-...ther-thoughts/
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Old 06-23-2019, 06:32 PM
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Just ignore the fact that since the original spate of breakdowns that caused the initial closure, Santa Anita has been one of the safest tracks around. Compare the number of breakdowns at Santa Anita since late March with the number of breakdowns at Belmont since late April. Compare late March til now at Santa Anita with a full season at Saratoga.

Santa Anita doesn’t have a problem with the racing surface.
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Old 06-23-2019, 06:43 PM
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Just ignore the fact that since the original spate of breakdowns that caused the initial closure, Santa Anita has been one of the safest tracks around. Compare the number of breakdowns at Santa Anita since late March with the number of breakdowns at Belmont since late April. Compare late March til now at Santa Anita with a full season at Saratoga.

Santa Anita doesn’t have a problem with the racing surface.
It wasn’t the ONLY problem, but it was one of them.

Surface isn’t an issue now but it was.
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Old 06-23-2019, 06:57 PM
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It wasn’t the ONLY problem, but it was one of them.

Surface isn’t an issue now but it was.
I think yes and no. The surface was an issue but it wasn’t because it was a bad surface. Unless you live in Southern California, it’s hard to relate to how unprecedented the amount of rain was that fell. They weren’t prepared for the conditions because the conditions were so unusual.
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