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Old 12-29-2006, 01:45 PM
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Fast is relative I guess...
ok, "fast," "good," "capable of winning a dirt grade I over Dreaming Of Anna?"

However you wish to frame it, name me some horses that are going to stop her from winning one....
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Old 12-29-2006, 01:55 PM
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Handily, as in without discomfort i spose.
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Old 12-29-2006, 02:58 PM
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Handily means somewhat urged throughout the work. Breezed means they were out galvanting around.

Best way to describe the two is that Handily is when more energy or (exercution ?) is used. I can't think of the word.
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Old 12-29-2006, 03:06 PM
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she put up a good time for the work.
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Old 12-29-2006, 04:40 PM
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I don't think she's any potential superstar on dirt and I think she'll ultimately get beat, but I don't see why this is even a debate.

Given that it's generally more lucrative, prestigious, valuable etc to win major dirt races, I think it's logical to keep her on the dirt and try to win a couple of the major races for 3 yo fillies. If she gets beat a couple of times and starts to look like she isn't a division leader on the dirt, then go back to the turf where she'll probably excel. The turf is always there as an option. Similar situation to Barbaro. All things equal, it's much more meaningful to win the Kentucky Oaks or the Alabama versus the American Oaks or the Del Mar Oaks.
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Old 12-29-2006, 04:44 PM
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I don't think she's any potential superstar on dirt and I think she'll ultimately get beat, but I don't see why this is even a debate.

Given that it's generally more lucrative, prestigious, valuable etc to win major dirt races, I think it's logical to keep her on the dirt and try to win a couple of the major races for 3 yo fillies. If she gets beat a couple of times and starts to look like she isn't a division leader on the dirt, then go back to the turf where she'll probably excel. The turf is always there as an option. Similar situation to Barbaro. All things equal, it's much more meaningful to win the Kentucky Oaks or the Alabama versus the American Oaks or the Del Mar Oaks.
Calabrese has balls the size of a elephant so don't be surprised if she has a good spring to see her in the Kentucky Derby, and not the Oaks
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I don't think she's any potential superstar on dirt and I think she'll ultimately get beat, but I don't see why this is even a debate.

Given that it's generally more lucrative, prestigious, valuable etc to win major dirt races, I think it's logical to keep her on the dirt and try to win a couple of the major races for 3 yo fillies. If she gets beat a couple of times and starts to look like she isn't a division leader on the dirt, then go back to the turf where she'll probably excel. The turf is always there as an option. Similar situation to Barbaro. All things equal, it's much more meaningful to win the Kentucky Oaks or the Alabama versus the American Oaks or the Del Mar Oaks.
well said. obviously she will ultimately get beat -- i don't think anyone has advocated the idea that she will be some sort of undefeated legend.

i just find it silly to say that she won't win a grade I dirt race again. i'd be honestly shocked if she didn't win at LEAST one more, i'd be willing to bet on two or more.
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Old 12-29-2006, 05:38 PM
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Yeah but there aren't exactly a lot of grade 1's for 3 year old fillies. I believe the Ashland is the first of the season, KY oaks and then the series at Belmont. She may very well get a few more in her career, but I think she would be better off going back to the turf.
actually there are 13 grade 1's for 3 YO fillies on dirt...while there are only 3 Grade 1's for 3 YO fillies on turf
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