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[RUFFIAN]

CONVOLUTED & CLUELESS @ CHURCHILL
~ ~ ~ REPEAT OR RIDICULE? ~ ~ ~ OR

R1
4 2 12 11 3

R2
2 4 11 1 5

R3
6 5 8 2 17

R4
4 7 6 5 2

R5
9 5 4 11 1

R6
8 10 16 1 14

R7
8 4 9 6 7

R8
3 10 9 6 2

R9
8 5 1 7 3

R10
1 9 4 11 2

R11
1 13 12 4 9

[JolyB]

I'd like to express my disagreement with the way that Ruffian has posted picks for Race 4. I have always thought that we were permitted to make 5 picks in each race, and would be scored on the first three on our list that actually ran. The extra two picks were to provide a cushion in case a couple of our picks scratched. That provides some protection for players who post picks early and then tend to other responsibilities on the day of the race, or to take into account massive late scratches if a race is taken off of the turf late in the day.

As I understand the picks for Race 4, Ruffian would like to also include a selection of a 6th pick, just in case both of the two AE horses (#13 & #16) do not run and someone else scratches. If we are allowed 5 choices, why should any player be able to make a 6th choice, just in case some picks don't run? To me, that is no different than saying that I would like to also pick #6 in addition to my 5 just in case several of my other picks are scratched. The fact that a couple of our selections are "also eligible", making the chances of their not running somewhat higher, really should not make a difference.

I may be off base in making this observation. If so, I'll be glad to apologize. But I would like to have our other more experienced players weight in on whether "you may pick 5 horses" really means "you may pick 5 horses", or whether it can mean something beyond that just because some horses are stuck on an also eligible list.

[DonGuido]

Originally Posted by JolyB

I'd like to express my disagreement with the way that Ruffian has posted picks for Race 4. I have always thought that we were permitted to make 5 picks in each race, and would be scored on the first three on our list that actually ran. The extra two picks were to provide a cushion in case a couple of our picks scratched. That provides some protection for players who post picks early and then tend to other responsibilities on the day of the race, or to take into account massive late scratches if a race is taken off of the turf late in the day.

As I understand the picks for Race 4, Ruffian would like to also include a selection of a 6th pick, just in case both of the two AE horses (#13 & #16) do not run and someone else scratches. If we are allowed 5 choices, why should any player be able to make a 6th choice, just in case some picks don't run? To me, that is no different than saying that I would like to also pick #6 in addition to my 5 just in case several of my other picks are scratched. The fact that a couple of our selections are "also eligible", making the chances of their not running somewhat higher, really should not make a difference.

I may be off base in making this observation. If so, I'll be glad to apologize. But I would like to have our other more experienced players weight in on whether "you may pick 5 horses" really means "you may pick 5 horses", or whether it can mean something beyond that just because some horses are stuck on an also eligible list.

Picking a 6th horse in case of scratch is not allowed, simple. To reiterate your 4th and 5th picks are allowed to cover scratches. Don't know why this is questioned. Don't know why we need an "additional number." ESSSSSH! But if anyone want's to pick be silly enough to pick 6,7,8 or all entries, go ahead, but only the first 5 will be counted in the order posted. But, so we keep the consistency we've had here for so many years, SCRATCH that last comment.

[ElPrado]

1) 10. 11. 4. 1. 7

2) 7 1 4 5 9

3) 8 1 4 10 3

4) 10 7 2 8 4

5) 1 4 9 7 10

6) 6 1 3 7 9

7) 10 1 3 7 9

8) 7 9 10 3 2

9) 1 3 5 7 6

10) 12 5 1 3 4

11) 2 9 1 3 7

[RUFFIAN]

JOLY

Since this is not a contest based on REAL MONEY
I didn’t think it was a big deal to have an additional ##

Didn’t Realize I Would RUFFLE Feathers So Bodaciously!

So Now To Calm The Troubled Waters ...

The 1 Xtra ## Is Now In The Twilight Zone

[JolyB]

Originally Posted by RUFFIAN-333

JOLY

Since this is not a contest based on REAL MONEY
I didn’t think it was a big deal to have an additional ##

Didn’t Realize I Would RUFFLE Feathers So Bodaciously!

So Now To Calm The Troubled Waters ...

The 1 Xtra ## Is Now In The Twilight Zone

Thank you. You made a change for the better.

No ruffled feathers, though. Just a feeling that we should all be playing on the same level field, whether we are playing for matchsticks or gold.

[Roamin42]

R1) 3-1-9-5-6

R2) 3-4-7-9-2

R3) 3-5-6-8-11

R4) 8-15-4-10-3

R5) 4-9-5-11-6

R6) 11-16-9-1-4

R7) 9-14-3-1-5

R8) 6-10-3-2-4

R9) 4-5-1-8-6

R10) 12-1-9-3-5

R11) 1-10-2-9-5

[Real Quiet]

A prime example of why we shouldn't play a track with a forecast of rain and turf races....good luck all (especially Plenilune with all the scratches)

R1...12-4-9-3-11
R2...4-2-5-11-1
R3...10-6-18-11-17
R4...4-5-2-6-7
R5...10-9-11-1-4
R6...16-13-19-14-8
R7...8-6-49-12
R8...3-2-5-11-10
R9...8-7-5-2-3
R10..12-11-4-9-1
R11..13-1-4-12-6

Thanks Plen....10 times over

[RUFFIAN]

RQ
- “prime example of why we shouldn't play a track with
a forecast of rain and turf races....
good luck all (especially Plenilune with all the scratches”)

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*** AQUEDUCT FORECAST ALSO INCLUDED RAIN
— — AS DID DEL MAR

So the choice of where to go put me between a rock and a hard place
At least Churchill Provided a lot of also eligibles ...
... Now we know why

[cruzan200246]

R1. 2-4-3-8-12
R2. 6-7-11-4-5
R3. 7-5-2-11-3
R4. 6-7-11-8-5
R5. 9-5-2-11-1
R6. 17-19-14-8-1
R7. 11-9-8-4-7
R8. 3-9-10-11-6
R9. 8-5-3-2-7
R10. 12-11-1-4-2
R11. 9-4-12-1-13