List of Players on Steroids

Roger Maris still holds the single season record for the most home runs in this guys book.

And Henry Aaron will not be overtaken by Barry Bonds. It will have to be someone else that is clean.

Those are not *'s for me. They just are.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Roger Maris still holds the single season record for the most home runs in this guys book.

And Henry Aaron will not be overtaken by Barry Bonds. It will have to be someone else that is clean.

Those are not *'s for me. They just are.

Plenty of Olympic athletes have had their medals taken away when they tested positive for steroids. Should they have had their medals taken away?

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Bababooyee

The difference is steroid use is clearly against olympic rules (even while steroids are legal in some countries). Steroids were not against baseball rules until recently.

Not to mention, baseball players, even back as far as the '60s, have been taking amphetamines in order to perform over the day-to-day grind of a 162 game season. A lot more players have used amphetamines, which have been illegal a lot longer than steroids. So, if we are going to call Big Mac a cheater, even while steroids were not banned by baseball, you're gonna have to be consistent and start the witch hunt for the amphetamine users starting from the '70s.

I don't know what specific substances were considered banned substances in baseball back in the 1990s, do you? But I would have to imagine that all performance-enhancing substances were not allowed. I could be wrong but I would be very surprised if steroids were not against baseball rules. They may not have enforced the rules on all the banned substances but that doesn't mean that there weren't rules against these substances.

I don't know anything about players using amphetamines. I don't doubt it but I just don't know anything about it.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Bababooyee

I know for a fact that steroids were not banned by MLB until 2002 or 2003 (I used to be an acquaintance of the fellow who actually provided certain substances to Conte). And, fwiw, some anabolic steroids are actually still legal and readily available OTC.

WRT amphetamines, quite a few players have said they are a much bigger problem than steroids ever were (Tony Gwynn has said that on Baseball Tonight, for example).

The testing was done in 2003. If the ban started in 2003, then the players that tested positive violated the rules.

[Samarta]

Originally Posted by Bababooyee

Right. I guess I am mixing my comments to you and Gander together. E.g., Some of the accused were out of baseball by then (ie Big Mac).

And that's probably the very reason he got out. He knew it was about to hit the fan and I agree it was him and not Canseco's book that so far has been the biggest blow to baseball. But it is still an issue that needs to be addressed going forward and not what's already taken place, because guess what? While baseball is trying to figure out who took steroids in 97,98, etc....they are missing the players that are taking them now. It goes on in every major sport, and there are people that make a living at helping their "patients" mask results. I remember watching an interview with Carl Lewis shortly after Ben Johnson was stripped of his gold medal and Lewis didn't comment on Johnson's usage, he commented on how he couldn't understand why Johnson was caught. He went on to explain how people cycle in and out to ensure a clean test.