Lukas down to 40 horses

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

I cant tell if you are joking or being serious. Lukas had her only to get her ready for the Breeders Cup Classic and that was after she won TWO eclipse awards.

I hope you are joking as this is absurd.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I hope you are joking as this is absurd.

What is absurd about it?

Lukas had her in the Apple Blossom and won just like she did the two previous years. She then lost 3 straight until she beat Sightseek. But what did he do that Laura didnt.

[GinaIsWild]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

What is absurd about it?

Lukas took a bowed horse that the previous trainer said was finished and turned her into a true champion. Denying that is just silly.

Originally Posted by Jfeld

Lukas took a bowed horse that the previous trainer said was finished and turned her into a true champion. Denying that is just silly.

Did she win the eclipse award when she was under Lukas?

[GinaIsWild]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Did she win the eclipse award when she was under Lukas?

It was a politically motivated backlash that prevented that from happening. A travesty of justice, which was so perverted that in the court of public opinion, the master Lukas and his mare were vindicated.

[estreetposse]

Originally Posted by Jfeld

Lukas took a bowed horse that the previous trainer said was finished and turned her into a true champion. Denying that is just silly.

injuries aside, she was a good horse. But your making DWL to be the "Messiah" of horse racing b/c of this?

It's not like he took a 9 YO $2500 claimer from Penn National and won the Apple Blossom with her. The horse was talented before she was in his care, you can't deny that. So he took the horse and made her even better, great, awsome all the best to DWL.

but your comment about him being the best thing to happen to Thoroughbred Racing is lose. A lot of people paved the way to Thoroughbred Racing before DWL was even a spec on the map.

-bt-

[GinaIsWild]

Originally Posted by -BT-

injuries aside, she was a good horse. But your making DWL to be the "Messiah" of horse racing b/c of this?

It's not like he took a 9 YO $2500 claimer from Penn National and won the Apple Blossom with her. The horse was talented before she was in his care, you can't deny that. So he took the horse and made her even better, great, awsome all the best to DWL.

but your comment about him being the best thing to happen to Thoroughbred Racing is lose. A lot of people paved the way to Thoroughbred Racing before DWL was even a spec on the map.

-bt-

Like who ?

[estreetposse]

Originally Posted by Jfeld

Like who ?

ok, i guess its come to this

Allen Jerkens
Jack Van Berg
Charles Wittingham
Laz Barrera

i mean the lists goes on and on, most of these guys were HOF's before Lukas even got into the game. I assume they had nothing to do with paving way right?

-bt-

[GinaIsWild]

Originally Posted by -BT-

ok, i guess its come to this

Allen Jerkens
Jack Van Berg
Charles Wittingham
Laz Barrera

i mean the lists goes on and on, most of these guys were HOF's before Lukas even got into the game. I assume they had nothing to do with paving way right?

-bt-

No one said that the aforementioned quartet aren't/weren't good trainers, but none REVOLUTIONIZED the training business a la Lukas. That was the point.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Jfeld

Lukas took a bowed horse that the previous trainer said was finished and turned her into a true champion. Denying that is just silly.

The horse was not bowed. The horse did have some tendinitis in one of her tendons, but it wasn't that serious. I know that because one of my trainers uses one of the vets that examined her. The only thing the horse needed was a short break. The reason DeSeroux wanted to retire her was because she knew that she was about to get fired.

I was actually extremely critical of Paulson's son at the time. I couldn't believe that he was trying to bring Azeri back. Here is a horse who had won 9 graded stakes races in a row for him. She had won two Eclispe awards. I couldn't believe that he would try to bring her back when she has a bow and put her at risk. But then I totally changed my opinion when I found out that the horse wasn't bowed and that DeSeroux totally exaggerated the extent of the injury.