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12-23-2006, 01:00 AM
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I think Dicksie has abused the priviledge. Might be time for a change. 
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12-23-2006, 02:29 AM
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while all this Dixie bashing is in keeping with the spirit of the forum,
the man is right. most of us are not horsemen and its NEVER our place to tell another man what to do with his property. there is a concept of property rights here that I guess a lot of you dont get. If this Cole dude wants to hitch a wagon to shake you down and give kids a ride around the block for $1/ride, then thats what he should do. its his horse. and if he wants to run him for 5k, then I thats what he should do. its a RACEhorse. never understood why someone would not want a racehorse to race. Repent
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12-23-2006, 03:15 AM
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Pent,
While I generally agree that racehorses are meant to race, in this case there is some back story. Cole said he had been keeping an eye on Shake after he had been claimed away from him and that he was taking him back as 'he's been so good to me'. That intimated that he was claiming him back to retire him. Now he's entered for a nickel? Horsebleep.. The horse made Cole. He's so obviously a shadow of himself, why subject him to any more racing at this point? Having banked $1.4 million, he's earned a retirement. The good news is that the 'drivel' here is resulting in some action being taken to see that Shake You Down is purchased privately before Wednesday and given a nice home for his post racing career.
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12-23-2006, 06:18 AM
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In all reality this might be the dumbest thread ever posted on here. There are some people that read this forum to learn something about the game of racing and the horses in it. To have a bunch of people that have never been in a barn or worked with tbreds start to post this drivel is both non informative and demeaning to the professionalism of Byk's beloved forum.
FACT: Whether a horse enjoys or suffers through being raced has NOTHING to do with the type of race it's in or where it has run before. The age of the animal is also meaningless up to about 9. This thread is a perfect example of a bunch of no nothings and wannabees passing themselves off as horseman. Bethani gets a pass on this one because I truly believe her hands on experience has been validated in the past. I would say the same goes for Blue Eyes and Honu. Thanks for the pass BK... but I have to ask you, how is it not a good thing that fans of a horse (regardless of their level of actual horse experience or knowledge) want to see a deserving animal enjoy a safe retirement? Instead of watching him flounder lower and lower down the claiming ranks until one day he finds himself on his last trailer ride? Whatever you think of the people who post here they're far better human beings than Cole ...they recognize that the horse has done enough. You know as well as I do that the horse is likely sore and hurting otherwise he wouldn't be where he is today...he has banked more than a million dollars, most of it for cole. You tell me...when will he have done enough?
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12-23-2006, 06:21 AM
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Way to go DT
Steve,
I hope you are right about someone stepping up. As the story of Shake You Down unfolds and if he is bought, it shows once again the good side of this forum and the power of the DT force. All of which leads to another praise of you, Steve for bringing us all together and allowing for something like this to happen. Way to go! Spyder from SC
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12-23-2006, 07:00 AM
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Thx Spydie, but should this end well, and I believe it will, all the credit goes to the magnanomosity of BTW and those that follow through.
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12-23-2006, 08:33 AM
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This BS thread is getting worse post by post. I'd be very surprised if anyone buys this horse for his welfare. MAYBE for the PR value attached to it but that is remote at best.
I claimed Kilmoray for $10,000. Ran him down to $3500 and then Allen bought him for $4500 (he didn't claim from me) and turned him out. I'm pretty sure he was 11. This is the only such story I know of after being involved with 100's of horses "hands on" one way or another. Won 5 races with A Deck when he was about 8 years old. Baitman won stakes @ 8 and Bobby and I helped him back to the barn @ Monmouth when he finally went. Sent him back to his breeders for pension. Got a nice letter saying he was happy and liked peppermints. Never knew horses bothered with peppermints before that. Always thought sugar and carrots were just fine. Anyone wants they can look up what Hirsch did with Joe Jones and Paper Tiger. There's a zillion others but I'm not going to waste my time. This kind of garbage is the down side of these forums. Readers sometimes believe that the clowns with the most posts are NOT the most ignorant members when it comes to racing. In reality, more often than not, they are. Note to Bethani: Horse's that get by the vet DO NOT FLOUNDER. As a matter of fact these claimers will probably be within 2 - 3 seconds of stake horse going the same distance the same day. Take the colors off and I guarantee you not one of these morons that is now moaning would know if he was watching a stake horse or a $5000, 6 year old claimer. Last edited by Dixie Porter : 12-23-2006 at 08:42 AM.
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12-23-2006, 08:44 AM
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Where did Dixie's idiotic first post from this thread go Kasept? Of course it doesn't matter much, as he trumped it with the second one. I guess he'll delete it soon, which makes this place a little strange.
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12-23-2006, 08:52 AM
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Perhaps you meant founder? Then again, you did after all invent the "Friday Fish Fry" concept, so we all know you're correct in any event. Of course, you also sued that rat Howard Johnson for stealing the concept. Against your better instincts, you took the setttlement offered as you were busy helping Eisenhower and Montgomery with strategy at the time.
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12-23-2006, 08:56 AM
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12-23-2006, 09:08 AM
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I've had my fill...
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And finally, call the members of this Forum morons again and you can join your insane pal on the outside looking in...
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12-23-2006, 09:46 AM
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I think it's important to save these posts that Dicksie will delete eventually. Imagine a man so full of self loathing that he criticizes anybody and everybody, in as nasty a manner as possible, only to delete these tantrums when, I assume, his medication gets changed. At least, Dicksie, you could be a real man and stand behind what you say....otherwise your rants can only be taken for what they so obviously are....the sad tantrums of a failure who sadly looks back on his useless life and hates to see others succeeding in all the ways he failed.
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01-09-2007, 05:56 AM
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[quote=Dixie Porter]This BS thread is getting worse post by post. I'd be very surprised if anyone buys this horse for his welfare. MAYBE for the PR value attached to it but that is remote at best.
I claimed Kilmoray for $10,000. Ran him down to $3500 and then Allen bought him for $4500 (he didn't claim from me) and turned him out. I'm pretty sure he was 11. This is the only such story I know of after being involved with 100's of horses "hands on" one way or another. Won 5 races with A Deck when he was about 8 years old. Baitman won stakes @ 8 and Bobby and I helped him back to the barn @ Monmouth when he finally went. Sent him back to his breeders for pension. Got a nice letter saying he was happy and liked peppermints. Never knew horses bothered with peppermints before that. Always thought sugar and carrots were just fine. Anyone wants they can look up what Hirsch did with Joe Jones and Paper Tiger. There's a zillion others but I'm not going to waste my time. This kind of garbage is the down side of these forums. Readers sometimes believe that the clowns with the most posts are NOT the most ignorant members when it comes to racing. In reality, more often than not, they are. Hey Braintrust, How's SYD doing on the farm? 
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12-23-2006, 08:17 AM
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12-23-2006, 08:20 AM
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Cant be that hard to find somebody that has 5 grand and wants a nice new pet. I mean some dogs cost between 1 and 2 grand, so why not a nice horse who has a great history behind him. If I owned a house with a big backyard I would claim him. He would make great transportation to work for me.
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12-23-2006, 09:39 PM
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if you guys want to buy the horse, thats certainly your right. thats what is great about the claiming system in this country. then you can do whatever you want with it(shoot it in the head for all I care). but there are 2 things that I have a problem with. 1-the property rights thing that I mentioned in the first post. 2-"earned a retirement"-what the hell does that mean anyway? if a horse wins x amount of dollars, then he gets to stop running? so what about the horse in Puerto Rico that wins at a 80% rate but only has earned 200K b/c purses suck? he has to keep running while a horse in the US that is still eligible for a n2x deserves retirement b/c he ran 2nd in the Delta Jackpot and has earnings of over 500K? and who says a horse wants to stop running anyway? how does winning make a horse deserving of isolation and boredom? in case no one noticed, they took his nuts away. what the hell is Shake You Down supposed to do now that is so much more fullfilling than racing? you think hes going to the KY Horse Park for losers to go and have their picture taken with him? not going to happen. Repent
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12-23-2006, 09:53 PM
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what a freaking nightmare.
losers on here like deepthroatwhatever taking shots at dixie. thats like steve francis telling jason kidd how to play the point. I think Oracle or whoever said it is right, that Cole dude had to enter him in that spot in hopes of this kind of reaction. clever move. i now hopes this horse breaks down immediately. as for the whole anonymous thing, very few on here truly are. but those that are, more power to you. privacy rights are real. Ive talked to a lot of you on instant messenger and I assume plenty of you have been to my myspace page. what you see is what you get. Repent
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12-23-2006, 10:03 PM
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Merry christmas.
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12-23-2006, 10:09 PM
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lmao, thats great. wishing death upon another member of the forum. has to be a violation of some sort. no worries, I would not be telling the truth if I said I hope most of you live to see 2008. Repent
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12-23-2006, 10:24 PM
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1. Comparing Dixie to Jason Kidd 2. Thinking Cole cares about Derbt Trail 3. Wishing harm upon a horse Without doubt, you could with 100% certainty, be considered an idiot. and a classless one at that
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