Race Riding or Herding?

[knickslions2]

I had no skin in that race but thought the 3 should have come down. Clearly herded the favorite all the way down the stretch almost into the rail.

[blackthroatedwind]

I think you are misconstruing Mig's comments. What he said, essentially, was that he believed that the Stewards would not take the horse down, and explained why he felt that way. I basically agreed with him.

I believe a horse should be taken down for that, but the Stewards have allowed that kind of behavior, and a jockey's responsibility is to do what he or she is legally allowed to do in order to win a race. I am not at all surprised the result stood, and actually think it is consistent with the decisions our Stewards make. Whether you or I agree with them is a completely different conversation.

[knickslions2]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I think you are misconstruing Mig's comments. What he said, essentially, was that he believed that the Stewards would not take the horse down, and explained why he felt that way. I basically agreed with him.

I believe a horse should be taken down for that, but the Stewards have allowed that kind of behavior, and a jockey's responsibility is to do what he or she is legally allowed to do in order to win a race. I am not at all surprised the result stood, and actually think it is consistent with the decisions our Stewards make. Whether you or I agree with them is a completely different conversation.

I agree that consistent rulings are really all we can ask for and New York tracks seem to be best at that.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I think you are misconstruing Mig's comments. What he said, essentially, was that he believed that the Stewards would not take the horse down, and explained why he felt that way. I basically agreed with him.

I believe a horse should be taken down for that, but the Stewards have allowed that kind of behavior, and a jockey's responsibility is to do what he or she is legally allowed to do in order to win a race. I am not at all surprised the result stood, and actually think it is consistent with the decisions our Stewards make. Whether you or I agree with them is a completely different conversation.

Originally Posted by knickslions2

I agree that consistent rulings are really all we can ask for and New York tracks seem to be best at that.

At the end of the day, as bettors this is all we can ask and hope for. Going forward, I have a feeling that this race will be the measuring stick for any type of herding infraction/DQ because this one really had to toe the line.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

I tend to think its rosario who is to blame for not making a winning move before that all happend.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

I tend to think its rosario who is to blame for not making a winning move before that all happend.

It's like he know's when I need him to win.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

I tend to think its rosario who is to blame for not making a winning move before that all happend.

Yep. Whether it should've been a DQ or not, that was indeed a masterclass in race riding by Lezcano, not just for the stretch maneuvers, but also for making sure he beat Rosario to the two-path when going to reel in Catapult near the turn for home.

[RHT2004]

Dream ride from Lezcano IMO. Nothing wrong.