EZ Warrior???

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

most people feel you get speed on top and stamina on the bottom, which means distance is influenced by the dam.

I was told that Sire determines Distance and Surface whereas Dam determines class. But what the hell do I know??

Eaj,

You're correct on the old theory that the stallion influenced distance and the dam-side imparted the class, but in recent times, the Classic's have been won by colts who were sired by sprinters/milers but were out of dam's who female family had a lot of back stamina.

The ways of the world seem to be changing... it only makes sense though. Most of the commercial sire lines are very speed oriented and the stamina to get 10f+ will have to come from somewhere else.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

EAJ,if the horse is really,really good(but distance limited,)I think he can get the 10f(the 1st time he is asked to do it.)After that though,the horse can sour badly.Like the top filly in '88 that won the Derby(Winning Colors.)She was a really good 3 year old filly out here at Anita.She won the Anita Derby,and then was getting pretty late in the Kentucky Derby.She made it,but was toast for the rest of that Spring and Summer.She didn't really come back to form at all until the B.C. Distaff(a very close 2nd.)

[philcski]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

EAJ,if the horse is really,really good(but distance limited,)I think he can get the 10f(the 1st time he is asked to do it.)After that though,the horse can sour badly.Like the top filly in '88 that won the Derby(Winning Colors.)She was a really good 3 year old filly out here at Anita.She won the Anita Derby,and then was getting pretty late in the Kentucky Derby.She made it,but was toast for the rest of that Spring and Summer.She didn't really come back to form at all until the B.C. Distaff(a very close 2nd.)

To perhaps the best stretch performance visually of my lifetime.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Winning Colors actually ran an outstanding 3rd to Risen Star in the Preakness after her Derby win. She was involved in a bitter pace battle, through fast fractions, with a champion named Forty Niner.

Winning Colors ended up 3rd, beaten just 2.5 lengths. Forty Niner ended up 7th beaten about 15 lengths. Forty Niner would win an ALW race, the Haskell, the Travers, lose a photo to Alysheba in the Woodward, and win the NYRA Mile in his next five starts...after the Preakness duel.

I know Blackthroatedwind has warned me about going into detail on these old races....but, in my opinion Winning Colors ran a better race in the Preakness than the Derby. Risen Star, on the other hand, ran an AMAZING race in the race Derby! He was hung out, and was the only horse doing any real serious passing. It was obvious Risen Star was best that day. However, I'm not so sure his Preakness race, even in victory, was better than WC's Preakness effort.

After the Belmont Stakes...Winning Colors returned in the Maskette, got loose on the early lead, but was wore down late by Personal Ensign...losing by about a half a length.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Winning Colors actually ran an outstanding 3rd to Risen Star in the Preakness after her Derby win. She was involved in a bitter pace battle, through fast fractions, with a champion named Forty Niner...

Don't forget she was dueling while wide out in the track as well.