Thunder Snow, and the forgotten BEST prep race

[RHT2004]

J Boys Echo, Always Dreaming and Irish War Cry.

[taxicab]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

J Boys Echo, Always Dreaming and Irish War Cry.

The first two I see like this:
AD: I just don't think they can afford to take a hold of him,he looks speed crazy.
He might have a healthy lead turning for home..........kind of a Bodemeister deal.
JBE: Dale Romans @ CD........nuff said.
IWC: I wasn't big on him,but when RBE posted the weather call for the weekend that changed things.
IWC pedigree sure seems mud friendly,Curlin on top/Polish Navy on the bottom.
If the track does come up soupy,I will drop Irap and add IWC.

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by taxicab

The first two I see like this:
AD: I just don't think they can afford to take a hold of him,he looks speed crazy.
He might have a healthy lead turning for home..........kind of a Bodie deal.
JBE: Dale Romans @ CD........nuff said.
IWC: I wasn't big on him,but when RBE posted the weather call for the weekend that changed things.
IWC pedigree sure seems mud friendly,Curlin on top/Polish Navy on the bottom.
If the track does come up soupy,I will drop Irap and add IWC.

When has Always Dreaming been speed crazy? He sat comfortably in the Florida Derby.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

When has Always Dreaming been speed crazy? He sat comfortably in the Florida Derby.

Always Dreaming has been a head case ever since he got there. TAP is trying everything in the book to get him to settle & rate to no avail thus far. I predict he's going to freak the fuk out in front of that crowd, break completely unrateable (especially with an inside draw) and be cooked after 7/8ths.

IRC is the only one of your 3 I'm considering.

[taxicab]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

When has Always Dreaming been speed crazy? He sat comfortably in the Florida Derby.

He never has,but he hit Kentucky and now he thinks he's Chinook Pass.
Not sure why.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by taxicab

He never has,but he hit Kentucky and now he thinks he's Chinook Pass.
Not sure why.

Wow, you really went old school with that one.

[Mike]

Thunder Snow winning the Criterium International on turf: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcDb1Ywuh5Y

2000 Guineas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWa0X1qdK7Y

[Mike]

Thunder Snow is 2 for 2 on dirt, both at Dubai. Is this the same Dubai track that was made to be similar to Churchill Downs?

[taxicab]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Wow, you really went old school with that one.

When I started hanging out at the track,he was the first "quick" horse I knew about.
Still the quickest in my book.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by taxicab

When I started hanging out at the track,he was the first "quick" horse I knew about.
Still the quickest in my book.

Chinook Pass is one of those obscure and forgotten horses from the past who should be remembered more. He was awesome.

[taxicab]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

When has Always Dreaming been speed crazy? He sat comfortably in the Florida Derby.

Thoro-graph seems to like your guy quite a bit,he really improved off of his previous.
They have his most recent number tied for the best.........without looking,can you guess which horse tied him for the best last race number ?

[tywizard]

Originally Posted by taxicab

Thoro-graph seems to like your guy quite a bit,he really improved off of his previous.
They have his most recent number tied for the best.........without looking,can you guess which horse tied him for the best last race number ?

Careful stating that TG likes him.

Also, the statement isn't true. Assuming you're talking about Always Dreaming he does not have the fastest last race from TG. IWC does. 2.25 faster than FL Derby winner.

[taxicab]

Originally Posted by tywizard

Careful stating that TG likes him.

Also, the statement isn't true. Assuming you're talking about Always Dreaming he does not have the fastest last race from TG. IWC does. 2.25 faster than FL Derby winner.

You're correct about IWC,he does have the best last race number.
I didn't notice the neg on the side of his number.........my own fault for not enlarging the screen.
You didn't understand my statement about AD.
When I said "like" referencing Thoro-graph,I meant it as a verb(in the past tense if you will) describing his previous races.........I was specifically speaking of his last number,and also his improvement from his race two back to his most recent.
I wasn't saying Thoro-graph was touting AD in the Derby.
Good luck on Saturday....

[Cpt.Bodgit]

well...the #2 post isn't going to help.

[taxicab]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

When has Always Dreaming been speed crazy? He sat comfortably in the Florida Derby.

Credit where credit is due.
You,Sir 2004........had Always Dreaming figured out perfectly.
Good read.
I......
On the other hand.....
Played Thunder Snow.
Two words...
Oh brother.

[ElPrado]

Hey, kudos for the jock for staying on 10 seconds😂.

[Hoblin]

Hats off to Soumillon and the the outrider for keeping Thunder Snow from running loose on the track. They averted what could have been a potential catastrophe not only for Thunder Snow, but for the entire rest of the field.

[ninetoone]

I had him covered on my tickets...it's an annual ritual that I go through...and one day it will pay off!

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

J Boys Echo, Always Dreaming and Irish War Cry.

I Don't like any of those guys......doesn't make you a winner, but certainly increases your chances of winning.

[Mike]

Here's the video of Master Plan gaining on Tapwrit in the Pulpit 75 k in the slop at Gulfstream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYsTQ3HOZxA

Master Plan has the only Bris Late Pace ratings that past Derby winners most often had prior to the race, a 110 Bris Late Pace. Master Plan seems to have accomplished this his last three races in a row. Master Paln looks okay against Tapwrit, therefore maybe Thunder Snow did beat a good dirt horse in the U.A.E. Derby. Lancaster Bomber, 4th place in the race, had been the Juvenile Turf runner up at the Breeders Cup