EZ Warrior???

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

I said POSSIBLEPedigree problems.As far as I am concerned ,anything with Carson City involved has possible distance limitations,but that's just me.I love the horse's races.Ran like a real smart horse.Like he was older than 2.

Gotcha and I agree with Carson City. And you are also right about the horse looking smart. I get the same impression.

[pba1817]

I like looking for stellar 2yo's way ahead of time as Derby horses to watch.... Then following their odds through those crooked assed future book pools and their 3yo prep season... Finally, when only a slight few of them actually reach the KY Derby starting gate(if any at all), the best part is when their going off odds are higher than any odds you could get in the future book pools....

Example-
A friend of mine had $20 on Giacomo in the Derby future pool #1 at 25-1. We are sitting in the Orleans on Derby day and he says, "Giacomo has no chance to win here, at least it was only a $20 spot I wasted". As you all know he was 50-1 in the real pool and my friend failed to lay any more action on him.

I love the horses...

[Rupert Pupkin]

I agree with Scuds. EZ Warrior looks like a very good horse but I highly doubt he will be able to go 1 1/4 miles. I don't know if he will even get 1 1/8 miles. He is out of a Carson City mare named Carson Jen. I believe she was strictly a sprinter.

[eajinabi]

Wait a minute EZ Warrior is Sired by Exploit to which I recall is from Storm Cat. True he is by a Carson City Mare but distance is not influnced by the dam. If it was I would not pay 1.2 million for a sprinter-miler.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

Wait a minute EZ Warrior is Sired by Exploit to which I recall is from Storm Cat. True he is by a Carson City Mare but distance is not influnced by the dam. If it was I would not pay 1.2 million for a sprinter-miler.

most people feel you get speed on top and stamina on the bottom, which means distance is influenced by the dam.

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

most people feel you get speed on top and stamina on the bottom, which means distance is influenced by the dam.

I was told that Sire determines Distance and Surface whereas Dam determines class. But what the hell do I know??

Eaj,

You're correct on the old theory that the stallion influenced distance and the dam-side imparted the class, but in recent times, the Classic's have been won by colts who were sired by sprinters/milers but were out of dam's who female family had a lot of back stamina.

The ways of the world seem to be changing... it only makes sense though. Most of the commercial sire lines are very speed oriented and the stamina to get 10f+ will have to come from somewhere else.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

EAJ,if the horse is really,really good(but distance limited,)I think he can get the 10f(the 1st time he is asked to do it.)After that though,the horse can sour badly.Like the top filly in '88 that won the Derby(Winning Colors.)She was a really good 3 year old filly out here at Anita.She won the Anita Derby,and then was getting pretty late in the Kentucky Derby.She made it,but was toast for the rest of that Spring and Summer.She didn't really come back to form at all until the B.C. Distaff(a very close 2nd.)

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

most people feel you get speed on top and stamina on the bottom, which means distance is influenced by the dam.

This is completely ridiculous. Anyone that has taken Biology 101 could tell people who feel this way how crazy it is.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

This is completely ridiculous. Anyone that has taken Biology 101 could tell people who feel this way how crazy it is.

Yeah it is!

Point Given's dam would rocket to the lead in races....and, except for one time when she barely held at a mile on turf...she would always fire on the airbrakes late if the race was beyond 5.5 furlongs.

Point Given, on the hand, won the 12 furlong Belmont Stakes by the length of a city block.