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Old 12-20-2006, 01:14 PM
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1. Invasor, it seemed most people held Sun King against him (and possibly the layoff) going into the Breeder's Cup.
2. Gorella, pity this late flying mare will likely be passed up for the Eclipse. Ouijia Board put together an exceptional global year, but only one of those races was in the U.S. beating the same fillies Gorella had.

Trainer -
While Pletcher was breaking every record out there McLaughlin had an outstanding year.

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Prado, just the all around great sportsman.

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The Whitney
Not to be disagreeable but since when are Invasor, McLaughin,Gorella, Prado, and the Whitney underrated?
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Old 12-20-2006, 01:15 PM
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I mean you have to dig a little deeper......
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Old 12-20-2006, 01:18 PM
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Not to be disagreeable but since when are Invasor, McLaughin,Gorella, Prado, and the Whitney underrated?
100% agreed.

However, I still say Sightseek is our most underrated poster on this board.
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Old 12-21-2006, 09:05 AM
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Not to be disagreeable but since when are Invasor, McLaughin,Gorella, Prado, and the Whitney underrated?
I think the odds on Invasor speak that he was under-rated. The big boys were believed to be Lava Man & Bernardini, and DrugS explaination of the horses behind Invasor & Sun King explain why I think the race was under-rated, which may have affected what people thought of on Invasor. (that and the Suburban field wasn't all that hot either)

Maybe I need a better word for McLaughlin, Gorella & Prado...over-looked perhaps? Guess we'll wait to see on Eclipse day.
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Old 12-21-2006, 09:13 AM
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Gorella is not underrated. Neither is Fernando Jara. You put any number of jockeys on Invasor and Jazil and they will win the same amount of races. Hes a good rider but so are many others.

The most over talked about trip of all time is the one she had in last year's BC Mile where she was shut off and couldnt get past Artie Schiller.

True, it has validity but she lost and you cant say for sure she would have been the winner with a clean trip. Others in that race had less than ideal trips too.

She was all out to beat Karen's Caper with a perfect trip in the race before the BC. At Arlington this summer she was pretty amazing winning the Beverly D but if you watch Film Maker's trip that day. Brutal and not just in one spot.
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Old 12-21-2006, 11:21 AM
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I think the odds on Invasor speak that he was under-rated. The big boys were believed to be Lava Man & Bernardini, and DrugS explaination of the horses behind Invasor & Sun King explain why I think the race was under-rated, which may have affected what people thought of on Invasor. (that and the Suburban field wasn't all that hot either)

Maybe I need a better word for McLaughlin, Gorella & Prado...over-looked perhaps? Guess we'll wait to see on Eclipse day.
Don't forget that Invasor was a bit higher in price than he might have otherwise been as a result of getting sick and missing the Jockey Club Gold Cup. Recall that he was coming into the race off a 3-month layoff which was *not* by design. He was coming off a recent illness, missed his prep race, and missed a few days of training. All of those factors raised questions about if he'd be able to deliver a peak performance and definitely contributed to his being the forgotten horse.
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Old 12-21-2006, 04:46 PM
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I think the odds on Invasor speak that he was under-rated. The big boys were believed to be Lava Man & Bernardini, and DrugS explaination of the horses behind Invasor & Sun King explain why I think the race was under-rated, which may have affected what people thought of on Invasor. (that and the Suburban field wasn't all that hot either)

Maybe I need a better word for McLaughlin, Gorella & Prado...over-looked perhaps? Guess we'll wait to see on Eclipse day.
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't he the 2nd choice in the biggest race in the country?
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Old 12-21-2006, 06:37 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't he the 2nd choice in the biggest race in the country?
3rd choice at 7-1 which is insane odds on the only horse besides Tom Fool to win the Pimlico Special, Suburban, and Whitney in the same year.
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Better Talk Now is underrated I guess...a former BC winner who again went off at 20-1 plus didn't he?? He darn near pulled another huge upset in the BC turf. Won a couple nice races this year and did also run some pretty pedestrian ones in the Arlington Million and UN. Pretty consistent old guy nonetheless.
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Old 12-22-2006, 07:50 AM
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I agree about Better Talk Now. This horse has been a thorn in my side forever betting wise. The few times I have played him have been when he throws a dud. A couple different times I needed somebody else to win for scores, and BTN beats me.

What a resume this horse has put together over the years. Very underrated when you consider all the ink English Channel and Cacique seem to get.
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