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Old 09-27-2016, 09:22 AM
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LOL WTF were you watching? She slaughtered him. Sorry Trumpites lol!
Ummmm... What everyone else in the country was watching. What were you watching?

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Old 09-27-2016, 09:30 AM
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Time modified their results this morning and it magically went to 50/50 again. Last I checked it was 53/47 Trump

The point is most of the online polls are biased since the majority of readers are already decided voters.

The undecideds, for the most part, don't give a s.hit about voting in an online poll.
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Old 09-27-2016, 09:41 AM
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Time modified their results this morning and it magically went to 50/50 again. Last I checked it was 53/47 Trump

The point is most of the online polls are biased since the majority of readers are already decided voters.

The undecideds, for the most part, don't give a s.hit about voting in an online poll.
Fair point. The upshot here is that neither really did anything to help themselves, but Trump did manage to expose her fake, contrived, wooden personality. Her smug cackles and arrogant attitude did more damage to her among Independents that anything she said to sway them.
That is a win for Trump.
He had a ton of opens early on which he did not take advantage of and thus appeared unprepared but it was clear that the NAFTA discussion swerved the mediation decidedly far left. It wasn't pretty, but he won the night because she did absolutely nothing to help herself.
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Old 09-27-2016, 09:45 AM
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I'm not gonna lie I completely lost my **** when the debate ended.

But I'm a strong supporter and my opinion does not matter one iota. Same with mclem on the other side.

What matters is the pull towards the never Trumpers and undecideds. That's what the debate was all about last night.

So I'm resigned to trust in Bannon and Conway. Conway might be the smartest pundit the Republicans have had in my lifetime.
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Old 09-27-2016, 12:54 PM
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I'm not gonna lie I completely lost my **** when the debate ended.

But I'm a strong supporter and my opinion does not matter one iota. Same with mclem on the other side.

What matters is the pull towards the never Trumpers and undecideds. That's what the debate was all about last night.

So I'm resigned to trust in Bannon and Conway. Conway might be the smartest pundit the Republicans have had in my lifetime.
I felt he held his own as well as could be expected, but when you have a moderator digging up 43 year old antitrust cases rather than talking about the Clinton Foundation = State Dept favors, emails, DNC scandal, etc. you knew it was a 2 on 1 attack with him doing his level best to defend himself.

This doesn't move the needle except draw a handful of right-leaning Indies with shrinking tolerances for the left wing media conglomerate biases over to Trump, and made the lefties feel like they can breathe for a minute. But that breath may well be short lived. The first post-debate poll from Real Clear Politics shows Trump with a 3 point lead nationally:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/
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Old 09-27-2016, 03:23 PM
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This right here is a pivot like no other.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6jdzwrCgEI

Bozell is also on the march.

Don't forget Wikileaks.

Don't forget your popcorn.

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Old 09-27-2016, 03:24 PM
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Rock bottom...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BshqMopwv2E

I still laughed though.
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Old 09-27-2016, 04:16 PM
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Rock bottom...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BshqMopwv2E

I still laughed though.
Complete mental case. It's like he has a make believe oval office in his house and he's the president of it. Holy sh1t that's funny.
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