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Old 12-18-2006, 01:08 PM
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An argument could be made that Strong Contendor was, overall, the most overrated horse of 2006. Idiots like DrugS actually declared him an up and coming superstar after his Gulfstream debut and all things considered his year was extremely disappointing. On the other hand, he showed enough promise in his wins that the possibility exists that he could be a force going into 2007. Unfortunately, being that he's trained by John Ward, the likelihood of further disappointment is acute.

Now, Strong Contendor cannot be THE most overrated horse of 2007, because John " Einstein " Ward claimed midway through the year that Dr. Pleasure, a veritable bum, was actually the best of his 3YOs. So, he would clearly have to be more overrated than Strong Contendor.
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Old 12-18-2006, 01:29 PM
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An argument could be made that Strong Contendor was, overall, the most overrated horse of 2006. Idiots like DrugS actually declared him an up and coming superstar after his Gulfstream debut and all things considered his year was extremely disappointing. On the other hand, he showed enough promise in his wins that the possibility exists that he could be a force going into 2007. Unfortunately, being that he's trained by John Ward, the likelihood of further disappointment is acute.

Now, Strong Contendor cannot be THE most overrated horse of 2007, because John " Einstein " Ward claimed midway through the year that Dr. Pleasure, a veritable bum, was actually the best of his 3YOs. So, he would clearly have to be more overrated than Strong Contendor.
Point Determined woud rank up there as well.
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Old 12-18-2006, 01:31 PM
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Point Determined woud rank up there as well.
True. The fact that he was bet down to 9-1 in the Derby still blows my mind.
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Old 12-18-2006, 01:32 PM
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Well, you have to realize that the vast majority of horses on the TC will be overrated every year.
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Old 12-18-2006, 01:42 PM
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Well, you have to realize that the vast majority of horses on the TC will be overrated every year.
That said, it would be unfair not to mention Music School (who's thrilling return yesterday does just that, marks him as another overrated TC contender.) I remember people getting excited last year after his optional claiming win at Oaklawn, followed by an excuse-heavy 3rd or 4th in the Southwest.
Most overrated? No. But he deserves a spot.
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Old 12-18-2006, 01:47 PM
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That said, it would be unfair not to mention Music School (who's thrilling return yesterday does just that, marks him as another overrated TC contender.) I remember people getting excited last year after his optional claiming win at Oaklawn, followed by an excuse-heavy 3rd or 4th in the Southwest.
Most overrated? No. But he deserves a spot.

He may be the most ridiculous of all. He won a slow maiden race, with phony trouble, and the whole world was going crazy. Then he had a slow return, followed by phony trouble, and people were still excited.

Now, one could say injuries have slowed him, just as one could also say he was always a bum.
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Old 12-18-2006, 01:49 PM
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Strong Contender: Overrated Horse of the Year. Should be a special Eclipse award for that one.
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Old 12-18-2006, 01:44 PM
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I agree that Dr. Pleasure would have to be among the most overrated. It seems that the better the bloodline, the more overrated a horse is. Its like people assume he's going to be as good as his mother (Beautiful Pleasure). Or the horse that got beat in a NW2X yesterday at the FG who's a full brother to Ghostzapper. It ain't all in the genes.
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Old 12-18-2006, 01:46 PM
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Maybe I should retract my Music School post, he DID beat Aristocrat in the race you mention at Fair Grounds yesterday!
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Old 12-18-2006, 01:48 PM
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Maybe I should retract my Music School post, he DID beat Aristocrat in the race you mention at Fair Grounds yesterday!
Aristocrat, and I know your joking, got a curiously idiotic ride. What the hell was he doing on the pace? He is a closing sprinter!

Wait, I just figured it out, Dixie must have given the jockey his instructions!
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