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"Black Lives Matter" 0 0%
"Blue Lives Matter" 1 4.00%
"All Lives Matter" 15 60.00%
None of the Above 9 36.00%
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Old 07-16-2016, 02:40 PM
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Thats nice
I'm sure that is all you can say when the evidence contradicts your opinion. That is hilarious. I post research that shows you are totally wrong, and the only response you can come up with is, "That's nice".

With regard to incarceration rates, that doesn't prove anything. If you have one group who is committing a disproportionate amount of crime, that group will obviously make up a disproportionate amount of the people in jail.

With regard to drugs specifically, there is an obvious reason why more people of color are arrested for drugs, and it is not because of the color of their skin. In the inner cities, there are drug dealers selling drugs on the streets and in alleys. You have people doing drugs in the street. You don't have that in nice neighborhoods. For example, if you have some white guy who is doing some drugs at his $5 million mansion in Beverly Hills, how is he going to get caught? It would be almost impossible for him to get caught. On the other hand, if you have some white guy trying to buy drugs on the street in south-central LA, I'm sure he would be just as likely to be arrested as a black guy.

With regard to your comment about meeting people from every demographic, I guarantee that I meet way more people than you from different ethnicities and demographics. Los Angeles is one of the most diverse cities in the country. Not only do I guarantee that I meet way more people of color than you, I guarantee that I spend way more time talking to them than you. What I am posting is based on my experience, and the research backs up what I say. The people of color that I know do not experience a significant amount of discrimination. And the research shows the same thing. With regard to black people specifically, most black people say that they are not discriminated against when it comes to getting jobs, housing, schools, etc.

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Old 07-16-2016, 06:39 PM
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Sure.

You post polls, i post stats and studies. I am sorry if you cannot read and understand those.. Keep living in your fantasy world tho. It sounds lovely there
And you cant guarantee a thing, not knowing my business.
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Old 07-19-2016, 06:04 AM
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Sure.

You post polls, i post stats and studies. I am sorry if you cannot read and understand those.. Keep living in your fantasy world tho. It sounds lovely there
And you cant guarantee a thing, not knowing my business.
You post studies that prove nothing. You're the one who does not understand the studies. If a group is committing a disproportionate percentage of crime, that group will obviously make up a disproportionate percentage of the people in prison. In no way, do incarceration rates prove any type of racism or prejudice.

If one group is sentenced to longer prison terms than other groups for the same crime, I agree with you that this would be evidence of discrimination. Does this happen? From most of the evidence I have seen, I would say that this probably does happen. It is one of the only areas where people of color may actually be discriminated against. Is this a good thing? No, it's certainly not a good thing. A person's jail sentence should obviously be solely based on the crime, not on the perpetrator's race, religion, or gender.

As I said in a previous post, I am 3/4 Jewish by blood. If a Jewish friend of mine showed me a stat that Jewish white-collar criminals get slightly longer prison terms than non-Jewish white-collar criminals, do you know what my response would be? My response would be, "Don't commit any crimes and you won't have to worry about."

Life isn't always totally fair. Are you aware that studies show that men get much longer prison terms than women who commit the same crime? Is that fair? Probably not. But do I really care? No, not all. If my biggest problem in life is that I may get a slightly longer jail term than a woman, I wouldn't consider that a major problem. I'm not planning on holding any marches over the issue. I'm not planning on starting a group called, "Men's Lives Matter".
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Old 07-19-2016, 07:22 AM
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You post studies that prove nothing. You're the one who does not understand the studies. If a group is committing a disproportionate percentage of crime, that group will obviously make up a disproportionate percentage of the people in prison. In no way, do incarceration rates prove any type of racism or prejudice.

If one group is sentenced to longer prison terms than other groups for the same crime, I agree with you that this would be evidence of discrimination. Does this happen? From most of the evidence I have seen, I would say that this probably does happen. It is one of the only areas where people of color may actually be discriminated against. Is this a good thing? No, it's certainly not a good thing. A person's jail sentence should obviously be solely based on the crime, not on the perpetrator's race, religion, or gender.

As I said in a previous post, I am 3/4 Jewish by blood. If a Jewish friend of mine showed me a stat that Jewish white-collar criminals get slightly longer prison terms than non-Jewish white-collar criminals, do you know what my response would be? My response would be, "Don't commit any crimes and you won't have to worry about."

Life isn't always totally fair. Are you aware that studies show that men get much longer prison terms than women who commit the same crime? Is that fair? Probably not. But do I really care? No, not all. If my biggest problem in life is that I may get a slightly longer jail term than a woman, I wouldn't consider that a major problem. I'm not planning on holding any marches over the issue. I'm not planning on starting a group called, "Men's Lives Matter".
You both post studies that prove nothing because I can find a study to support any position anyone can ever imagine on the Internet. This includes The Holocaust not happening, 911 being an inside job, Moon Landing was a hoax, etc. etc. etc. So in summary her "study" is no more no less useless as yours.
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You both post studies that prove nothing because I can find a study to support any position anyone can ever imagine on the Internet. This includes The Holocaust not happening, 911 being an inside job, Moon Landing was a hoax, etc. etc. etc. So in summary her "study" is no more no less useless as yours.

that's true.
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Follow the money

http://www.businessinsider.com/priso...-states-2016-7
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and IF you could follow it further, you will find some pol or pols that are benefiting from the direction of that spending, money doesn't move unless one or several of these c#$%suckers benefit from it.
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