Rene Douglas Barred from Calder

At least "The Bid' actually works in this game and has accomplished things within it.
Those who can do, those who can't talk about the people who do.
I don't doubt that he does know what the story is, and I ca see where it rub people the wrong way to say I know but can't tell. But give me the opinions and info of people like Outofthebox, Cannon Shell, Richi, and The bid any DAY over the folks who aren't in the game. Those guys are actually players.

[Byebyemermaid]

I guess the real issue might be what affect this might have on him as far as Gulfstream is concerned or anyother tracks.Will this be just isolated to Calder or have broader ramifications.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Byebyemermaid

I guess the real issue might be what affect this might have on him as far as Gulfstream is concerned or anyother tracks.Will this be just isolated to Calder or have broader ramifications.

which of course would be more important, and have greater impact on rene douglas.

[Byebyemermaid]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

which of course would be more important, and have greater impact on rene douglas.

If he's barred from Calder then wouldn't it be plausible to assume that he's also barred from Churchill and Arlington where he's been king,since they're both owned by CDSN.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by oracle80

At least "The Bid' actually works in this game and has accomplished things within it.
Those who can do, those who can't talk about the people who do.
I don't doubt that he does know what the story is, and I ca see where it rub people the wrong way to say I know but can't tell. But give me the opinions and info of people like Outofthebox, Cannon Shell, Richi, and The bid any DAY over the folks who aren't in the game. Those guys are actually players.

whether you know something or not doesn't mean a whole lot if you just say 'i know' not, 'i know, and this is what it is'. anyone can say they know something.
and whether you are an owner, trainer, agent, or fan, you're a player.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

whether you know something or not doesn't mean a whole lot if you just say 'i know' not, 'i know, and this is what it is'. anyone can say they know something.
and whether you are an owner, trainer, agent, or fan, you're a player.

I know I don't know.

I talked to two friends who are at Calder today. One is "in" with one of the VPs. The other is "in" with a Calder top trainer Douglas rides a lot for.

Each of them had different stories.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

I am sure it isn't good news.So,why should we be in such a hurry to know about it?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by oracle80

At least "The Bid' actually works in this game and has accomplished things within it.
Those who can do, those who can't talk about the people who do.
I don't doubt that he does know what the story is, and I ca see where it rub people the wrong way to say I know but can't tell. But give me the opinions and info of people like Outofthebox, Cannon Shell, Richi, and The bid any DAY over the folks who aren't in the game. Those guys are actually players.

Congratulations, it wasn't easy, but you have scaled new heights for sad and pathetic posting.

I award this post the coveted " five retches ".

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Congratulations, it wasn't easy, but you have scaled new heights for sad and pathetic posting.

I award this post the coveted " five retches ".

Actually,I think he is unfortunately being honest,and is an example of the way people in this industry think.I was gunna buy some shares in that horse next month(just to have some fun with it,)but I seem to have lost the taste for it.I'll spend it on animals though.It's all good.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Actually,I think he is unfortunately being honest,and is an example of the way people in this industry think.I was gunna buy some shares in that horse next month(just to have some fun with it,)but I seem to have lost the taste for it.I'll spend it on animals though.It's all good.

Honest about what? Honest that he knows specifically others on this board ( and I won't even include myself ) that are more connected than at least some of the four he named?

We all know the racetrack is a rumor mill.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Honest about what? Honest that he knows specifically others on this board ( and I won't even include myself ) that are more connected than at least some of the four he named?

We all know the racetrack is a rumor mill.

With all sincerlty and whatever modicum of due respect, let me ask what does being "more connected" get anybody? The track IS a rumor mill there's far more bad information than good floating around.

I find the connected people I know to be, for the most part, poor bettors. They can't seem to get past that "fear of regret" barrier.

Anyways, as you were...

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Honest about what? Honest that he knows specifically others on this board ( and I won't even include myself ) that are more connected than at least some of the four he named?

We all know the racetrack is a rumor mill.

LOL..Honest about the way a lot of trainers,jocks,agents etc. etc. think about those that "just bet," or "just watch" the races.The fans etc. are just necessary evils to these elite folks.They have a long way to go before they get as fan friendly as other sports.Bailey couldn't give a sht about the fans until he wanted to sell that DVD,and then he suddenly is on a commercial telling everybody that the fans are important.LOL,NOW they are important to him.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

LOL..Honest about the way a lot of trainers,jocks,agents etc. etc. think about those that "just bet," or "just watch" the races.The fans etc. are just necessary evils to these elite folks.They have a long way to go before they get as fan friendly as other sports.Bailey couldn't give a sht about the fans until he wanted to sell that DVD,and then he suddenly is on a commercial telling everybody that the fans are important.LOL,NOW they are important to him.

I don't agree. Some get it and some don't but for the most part the participants in the game are very respectful of the fans. And especially of the true fans. Whether or not they share information is another story, and considering how bad most of their info is they would probably be doing a public service if they never shared anything.

The average fan doesn't even know who a lot of these characters are, especially jockey agents, but for the most part they are nice to fans who approach them. Look, there's always a Mark Hennig in every bunch, but I don't think you have a perceptively different mix among racetrack denizens than you do in the rest of the world.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I don't agree. Some get it and some don't but for the most part the participants in the game are very respectful of the fans. And especially of the true fans. Whether or not they share information is another story, and considering how bad most of their info is they would probably be doing a public service if they never shared anything.

The average fan doesn't even know who a lot of these characters are, especially jockey agents, but for the most part they are nice to fans who approach them. Look, there's always a Mark Hennig in every bunch, but I don't think you have a perceptively different mix among racetrack denizens than you do in the rest of the world.

There actually quite a few who take fans for granted in my opinion. Far too many.

[The Bid]

Thats crazy scud.... You can find any trainer, gallop boy, jockey, agent, any of those guys at your local golf course, restaurant, bar, whatever. You dont see them walking around with body guards. When have you seen Barry Bonds ever stop and speak to someone walking on or off the field. Ask Borel, Toups, or Albarado a question sometime when they come out of the tunnel, see what you get. I would be shocked if any of the three didnt walk over and acknowledge you personally.

As for the trainers, which trainers do you want to speak with? Cannon comes in here and expresses himself, any trainer prior to a race is over on the front side. They dont sneak out of a dugout, they dont drive up in a limo. Most of them are in normal cars parked with everyone else. At Churchill you can walk up and speak to them whenever you want.

As for a jocks agents who really cares about a jocks agent? I would think you would want to avoid them more than you would want to speak with them.

Most of the guys in this sport are very gracious, down to earth, and easily accessible to the public

Originally Posted by The Bid

Thats crazy scud.... You can find any trainer, gallop boy, jockey, agent, any of those guys at your local golf course, restaurant, bar, whatever. You dont see them walking around with body guards. When have you seen Barry Bonds ever stop and speak to someone walking on or off the field. Ask Borel, Toups, or Albarado a question sometime when they come out of the tunnel, see what you get. I would be shocked if any of the three didnt walk over and acknowledge you personally.

As for the trainers, which trainers do you want to speak with? Cannon comes in here and expresses himself, any trainer prior to a race is over on the front side. They dont sneak out of a dugout, they dont drive up in a limo. Most of them are in normal cars parked with everyone else. At Churchill you can walk up and speak to them whenever you want.

As for a jocks agents who really cares about a jocks agent? I would think you would want to avoid them more than you would want to speak with them.

Most of the guys in this sport are very gracious, down to earth, and easily accessible to the public

If you see a jocks agent coming you wanna cross the street as soon as possible.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

[quote=The Bid]Thats crazy scud....


How can you say it's crazy when Oracle just said it a couple hours ago? Look at the quote.He is just talking the way people "in the business" talk about fans and bettors (when they are talking together.)


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[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Thats crazy scud.... You can find any trainer, gallop boy, jockey, agent, any of those guys at your local golf course, restaurant, bar, whatever. You dont see them walking around with body guards. When have you seen Barry Bonds ever stop and speak to someone walking on or off the field. Ask Borel, Toups, or Albarado a question sometime when they come out of the tunnel, see what you get. I would be shocked if any of the three didnt walk over and acknowledge you personally.

As for the trainers, which trainers do you want to speak with? Cannon comes in here and expresses himself, any trainer prior to a race is over on the front side. They dont sneak out of a dugout, they dont drive up in a limo. Most of them are in normal cars parked with everyone else. At Churchill you can walk up and speak to them whenever you want.

As for a jocks agents who really cares about a jocks agent? I would think you would want to avoid them more than you would want to speak with them.

Most of the guys in this sport are very gracious, down to earth, and easily accessible to the public

I think this is very true. Most guys seem genuinely happy to answer your questions.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Congratulations, it wasn't easy, but you have scaled new heights for sad and pathetic posting.

I award this post the coveted " five retches ".

well, we were all waiting for the next "award" or wacky word from you (been a while since you rolled out "insipid").

You've taken this "friend of the house" thing to new levels.

[The Bid]

I never talked to his agent...... I just made up the entire thing so I would have something entertaining to read. I knew the guys and gals who were big in the game here would discredit me.