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Old 12-15-2006, 02:38 PM
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I love these guys who know so much about training who most likely couldn't put a bridle on one if there was a cash reward for doing so.
Mott got a turf mare off the same guy that Dutrow got Liam off of and her form wasn't any good either, yet she became a mutiple graded stakes winner.
He "move her up" as well? I suppose he did, but has it occurred to anyone that perhaps the guy who had those horses simply isn't very good?
Nah, couldn't be that, it doesn't fit the grand scheme of how things shoudl be huh? Mott moved up the filly because he is a classic conditioner, and the other guy did it with juice.

Sands Springs was FAR better for Reinstedler than Saint Liam. Mott improved her a bit because he probably is a better trainer than Tony Reinstedler....who prior to going out on his own worked for Shug. I'm sure he never learned anything from him.
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Old 12-15-2006, 02:41 PM
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Sands Springs was FAR better for Reinstedler than Saint Liam. Mott improved her a bit because he probably is a better trainer than Tony Reinstedler....who prior to going out on his own worked for Shug. I'm sure he never learned anything from him.
So you look to bet on his horses every chance you get? hes one of those guys I auto toss on seeing his name. he will beat you rarely and when he does it pays like 4 bucks or less. No thanks. Mott is "PROBABLY' a better trainer than reinstedler? Probably?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats like saying Phil Mickelson is probably a better golfer than me.
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Old 12-15-2006, 02:49 PM
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So you look to bet on his horses every chance you get? hes one of those guys I auto toss on seeing his name. he will beat you rarely and when he does it pays like 4 bucks or less. No thanks. Mott is "PROBABLY' a better trainer than reinstedler? Probably?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats like saying Phil Mickelson is probably a better golfer than me.
I think Reinstedler is a better trainer than Dutrow.
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Old 12-15-2006, 02:59 PM
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I think Reinstedler is a better trainer than Dutrow.
To each his own. I'm so tired of the pity parties being thrown for guys who flat out don't win despite being sent very expensive horseflesh each year. It can't be that all of these guys are just victims of racings "current state" can it?
Don't any of these guys just flat out stink?
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Old 12-15-2006, 03:00 PM
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To each his own. I'm so tired of the pity parties being thrown for guys who flat out don't win despite being sent very expensive horseflesh each year. It can't be that all of these guys are just victims of racings "current state" can it?
Don't any of these guys just flat out stink?
Who knows who's a good trainer and who isn't anymore.
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Old 12-15-2006, 03:06 PM
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Who knows who's a good trainer and who isn't anymore.
Well I really think that there are a lotta guys who get good stuff each year and just never develop it.
Now I may be off the "mark" but my memory is not "rusty" and I saw some of them when I went to the Breeders Cup when they had it in Dallas.
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Old 12-15-2006, 03:14 PM
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