Bama's offer to Saban

[Pointg5]

Originally Posted by BellamyRd.

POINT G if you personally have not seen both UC's facilities or UA's facilities then you have no right to open your DAMN mouth about them!
I laugh when you open your mouth and pretend to know anything about horses, so why should this subject be any different...?

I didn't say that I have been to both facilities, this is from 2 guys that covered SEC schools, Georgia and Kentucky, why would they lie? I think I have found a new group of the most delusional fans, it was a tossup between UK Basketball Fans and Ohio State Football fans, but I think the Alabama fans are actually worse than both. It's not a bad job, but why knock yourself out trying to win in the SEC and deal with psychos like you, it's not an attractive job as you guys think.

And as for the horse comment, I have forgotten more than you will ever know...

Originally Posted by Pointg5

I didn't say that I have been to both facilities, this is from 2 guys that covered SEC schools, Georgia and Kentucky, why would they lie? I think I have found a new group of the most delusional fans, it was a tossup between UK Basketball Fans and Ohio State Football fans, but I think the Alabama fans are actually worse than both. It's not a bad job, but why knock yourself out trying to win in the SEC and deal with psychos like you, it's not an attractive job as you guys think.

And as for the horse comment, I have forgotten more than you will ever know...

ahh that old slight again huh?
ok well why did Dantonio bolt the first chance he had for the last place team in the Big Ten this year?
UC's facilities = River Downs
Alabama's facilities = Churchill Downs
"Point Given, NOT TODAY!"

Originally Posted by BellamyRd.

ahh that old slight again huh?
ok well why did Dantonio bolt the first chance he had for the last place team in the Big Ten this year?
UC's facilities = River Downs
Alabama's facilities = Churchill Downs
"Point Given, NOT TODAY!"

UC's facilities are ok, but to compare them to Bama's is an absolute homer move.

What the hell difference do facilities make anyway?
Its football, not figure skating.
All you need is a weight room and a field for them to kick the **** out of each other on.
I don't see what difference it makes.
As far as the coach search goes, they will get a top notch coach sooner or later. Its too good of an opportunity for someone not to take it.
BUt again, if the job is as great as Bama fans are claiming, then why is it still open instead of being immediately filled by guys trying to get in? Isn't that really the proof in the pudding that perhaps Bama fans think its a better job than it is perceived by everyone else?

Originally Posted by oracle80

What the hell difference do facilities make anyway?
Its football, not figure skating.
All you need is a weight room and a field for them to kick the **** out of each other on.
I don't see what difference it makes.
As far as the coach search goes, they will get a top notch coach sooner or later. Its too good of an opportunity for someone not to take it.
BUt again, if the job is as great as Bama fans are claiming, then why is it still open instead of being immediately filled by guys trying to get in? Isn't that really the proof in the pudding that perhaps Bama fans think its a better job than it is perceived by everyone else?

Only two coaches have declined. SC has better golf courses than Alabama and he's an egomaniac who doesn't want to live in the bear's shadow.

The other guy is a PW'ed stuttering boob who's got a mediocre record at best.

Our problem is there aren't many real men left in the coaching ranks. Most of them are intimidated by the bear and settle for less by coaching at some jugblowing, couch burning, ****hole on the side of a mountain.

[dr. fager]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Only two coaches have declined. SC has better golf courses than Alabama and he's an egomaniac who doesn't want to live in the bear's shadow.

The other guy is a PW'ed stuttering boob who's got a mediocre record at best.

Our problem is there aren't many real men left in the coaching ranks. Most of them are intimidated by the bear and settle for less by coaching at some jugblowing, couch burning, ****hole on the side of a mountain.

...or spend too much time in strip bars.

Originally Posted by dr. fager

...or spend too much time in strip bars.

He'd still be coach if the jesus freaks didn't overreact. So what if he likes titties, who doesn't? Besides the ESPN crew.

[dr. fager]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

He'd still be coach if the jesus freaks didn't overreact. So what if he likes titties, who doesn't? Besides the ESPN crew.

I heard he was up for the ASU job and didn't get it.....

I'm not sure if UA fans are capable of laughing at themselves realizing a joke is a joke but I found this pretty funny.

http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger...craigslist.jpg

[Samarta]

Originally Posted by oracle80

What the hell difference do facilities make anyway?
Its football, not figure skating.
All you need is a weight room and a field for them to kick the **** out of each other on.
I don't see what difference it makes.
As far as the coach search goes, they will get a top notch coach sooner or later. Its too good of an opportunity for someone not to take it.
BUt again, if the job is as great as Bama fans are claiming, then why is it still open instead of being immediately filled by guys trying to get in? Isn't that really the proof in the pudding that perhaps Bama fans think its a better job than it is perceived by everyone else?

Once again, I gotta admit Mike you're right on the money. Facilities do matter however. If any program out there wants to see what the prototype facility is, they need to go to NC State. I'm not a Wolfpack fan, but that is hands down the top facility in the nation. I think last year was the first year it was totally complete and I saw in S.I. where the coaches rated it the top place in the country. Now back to the debate, they will get a coach that has potential to be a top notch coach. The problem is they had one and let him go. They have got to realize that a coach can't walk into a place anymore and say I'm the coach at Alabama and is instantly more attractive because of that. They need to give a guy 5 years and leave him alone. If they don't it will never get fixed.

Originally Posted by Samarta

Once again, I gotta admit Mike you're right on the money. Facilities do matter however. If any program out there wants to see what the prototype facility is, they need to go to NC State. I'm not a Wolfpack fan, but that is hands down the top facility in the nation. I think last year was the first year it was totally complete and I saw in S.I. where the coaches rated it the top place in the country. Now back to the debate, they will get a coach that has potential to be a top notch coach. The problem is they had one and let him go. They have got to realize that a coach can't walk into a place anymore and say I'm the coach at Alabama and is instantly more attractive because of that. They need to give a guy 5 years and leave him alone. If they don't it will never get fixed.

so apparently UC has top facilities but not enough money leftover to pay a coach a decent wage~ well we do! BTW I've been to the UC campus and wasn't sure if I was in a government housing project or the slums of Cincinnati.
Ok they had one with the potential, well he never lived up to the potential and was never going to. Shula simply lacks confidence in his own ability to make the correct play call in crucial moments in the game, he lacks presence and disciplinarian skills, and when asked to make any changes to his staff he simply refused, thus was fired. In fact he would only take advice on a game plan from his father or Ray Perkins, one great one good, but both at least 10 years removed from the game. So once again, I ask, if you don't know what you are talking about with the Alabama situation then don't come here yapping about it, because I'll be here to take you down, all the way to Chinatown, baby!

here's a little taste for those of ya'll who don't know:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:B...opped.jpg#file

[Samarta]

Originally Posted by BellamyRd.

here's a little taste for those of ya'll who don't know:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:B...opped.jpg#file

Any major college stadium on any given Saturday in the Fall.

[Samarta]

Originally Posted by BellamyRd.

so apparently UC has top facilities but not enough money leftover to pay a coach a decent wage~ well we do! BTW I've been to the UC campus and wasn't sure if I was in a government housing project or the slums of Cincinnati.
Ok they had one with the potential, well he never lived up to the potential and was never going to. Shula simply lacks confidence in his own ability to make the correct play call in crucial moments in the game, he lacks presence and disciplinarian skills, and when asked to make any changes to his staff he simply refused, thus was fired. In fact he would only take advice on a game plan from his father or Ray Perkins, one great one good, but both at least 10 years removed from the game. So once again, I ask, if you don't know what you are talking about with the Alabama situation then don't come here yapping about it, because I'll be here to take you down, all the way to Chinatown, baby!

The Alabama situation is what it is....A once great program that is now in the bottom tier of it's conference, run by an administration and boosters that aren't willing to invest in a coach or understand that it is going to take a lot of time to rebuild it, (case in point, your comment about asking Shula to make changes) or the realization that they just can't make an offer to someone and expect them to jump ship because they might already be in a situation that is best for them, their long term goals, and their families.

So while you make your comments about me not knowing anything about the Alabama program, spend a little time brushing up on the coaches they have gone after and their current situations and then lets continue this debate. Perhaps you can give me a tour of Chinatown.....

[Pointg5]

Originally Posted by BellamyRd.

ahh that old slight again huh?
ok well why did Dantonio bolt the first chance he had for the last place team in the Big Ten this year?
UC's facilities = River Downs
Alabama's facilities = Churchill Downs
"Point Given, NOT TODAY!"

Your are a complete derelict...



Let's see why did Dantonio bolt???

#1 He was the second lowest paid BCS Coach behind Duke

#2 Why beg to get 27,000 people to come to your games, when you have 71,000 more than willing. He had to call people in Cincinnati to ask them to come to a game...

It's a no brainer, I don't blame him, Cincinnati is a Pro Football Town and College Basketball Town, it will never be a College Football Town and I don't pretend otherwise...

Dantonio even said that the facilities are as nice or better than Michigan State or OSU, both places he coached.

UC will max out at 35k attendance, so yes many schools have them beat that way, but for training and general setup, they have one of the best in the Country as stated by the anouncers on ESPN during one of the games, they couldn't lavish enough praise on the place, it just went through a huge overhaul.

And for the Bama fans questioning me have I been to Bama and them claiming to have better facilities than NFL Teams, how many NFL Facilities or other College Facilities have you toured. Just more nonsense from the Bama fans.

Pointg5=Realistic Fan
Bellamy Road=Bama Nut Job