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Old 05-31-2006, 11:23 AM
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High Finance should worry a bunch of people. Could run away with this race.
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Old 05-31-2006, 11:28 AM
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High Finance should worry a bunch of people. Could run away with this race.
Do you think he can handle a mile and a quarter?
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Old 05-31-2006, 11:32 AM
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Do you think he can handle a mile and a quarter?
no, or a mile and a half....
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Old 05-31-2006, 11:35 AM
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no, or a mile and a half....
Oops. DOH!
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Old 05-31-2006, 11:45 AM
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Do you think he can handle a mile and a quarter?
I think he can go 12F with no problem based on his last two performances. I am not a big dosage guy and I guess neither was Conquistador Cielo who had a DI of 6.14. and had no problem in the belmont winning by 14.5 lengths only 5 days after winning the Met Mile.
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Old 05-31-2006, 11:50 AM
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I think he can go 12F with no problem based on his last two performances. I am not a big dosage guy and I guess neither was Conquistador Cielo who had a DI of 6.14. and had no problem in the belmont winning by 14.5 lengths only 5 days after winning the Met Mile.
I'm talking more in the lines of dosage points and not so much the dosage index.
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Old 05-31-2006, 12:13 PM
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I'm talking more in the lines of dosage points and not so much the dosage index.
It is my understanding that Dosage Index (the ratio of speed to stamina) is really what dosage people use as a yardstick to determine a horses ability to go a certain distance (>4.0 being the number they throw around for the classic distance). I am not a dosage expert or believer though so perhaps you are talking about something else. The points are just an accumulation of that spectrum from brilliant to professional. Also, not sure who dosage works because it completely ignores young sires.

Talk is Money's (HF's Sire) Blazing Sunset just won at 9F in the Alydar so I don't think distance is a problem on top and Margay is out of CC so I don't see how anyone can question his ability to go 12F, especially based on his last two races where he won for fun. He was confirmed for the Belmont too, now I just hope nobody likes him.
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Old 05-31-2006, 12:19 PM
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It is my understanding that Dosage Index (the ratio of speed to stamina) is really what dosage people use as a yardstick to determine a horses ability to go a certain distance (>4.0 being the number they throw around for the classic distance). I am not a dosage expert or believer though so perhaps you are talking about something else. The points are just an accumulation of that spectrum from brilliant to professional. Also, not sure who dosage works because it completely ignores young sires.

Talk is Money's (HF's Sire) Blazing Sunset just won at 9F in the Alydar so I don't think distance is a problem on top and Margay is out of CC so I don't see how anyone can question his ability to go 12F, especially based on his last two races where he won for fun. He was confirmed for the Belmont too, now I just hope nobody likes him.
I'm looking at the dosage points. Horses are rated in points across five different categories. For example, this is High Finance:

Profile 6-0-4-0-0

The middle category is the one that is looked at as to whether or not the horse can get the classic distance. The higher the number in the middle category (which is a 4 in High Finance's case), the better because that middle number should be stronger or at least equal to the remaining five categories. It's also not a good thing (according to people who use this method) to have more than two zeros if the horse is trying to go a classic distance. I am by no means an expert on this, but from what I have learned regarding the Belmont, pedigree plays a huge role (more so than the derby.)
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Old 05-31-2006, 01:35 PM
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Everyone appears to be forgetting BGCAT.I thinks the reason Pletcher didnt have him in the Preakness was to get his best shot at barbaro in the Belmont with the extra rest. Pletcher recognized Barbaros ability and was hoping to find him more vulnerable in the belmont . Bluegrass Cat looks the best. Jazil will do like always, make his late run and look like he needs a little more ground even at 1 1/2. Look at the new shooters and those that have a win on the track should be closely looked at{does this sound like any horse that has been discused here}.
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