American Pharoah... what's next for our new Champion? (The Haskell)

[knickslions2]

I wonder who will challenge him there if he goes. Most likely a small field. I would think Carpe Diem maybe would go but not sure else.

[TouchOfGrey]

Has it been confirmed that he is indeed going to the Haskel?

[Benny]

Originally Posted by TouchOfGrey

Has it been confirmed that he is indeed going to the Haskel?

Seriously ??? Everyone is just guessing

[robfla]

Originally Posted by TouchOfGrey

Has it been confirmed that he is indeed going to the Haskel?

when the Zayats were interviewed on Saturday at CD the whole family expressed a desire to go to MTH for the Haskell. It's their "home track".

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by TouchOfGrey

Has it been confirmed that he is indeed going to the Haskel?

no horse is confirmed yet. but that's their plan.

[senator L]

After listening to Mr Zayat and all his comments
I was believing they would race him again. After watching
NBC's Kenny Rice interviewing the family and listening to
Mr Zayat I think American Pharoah will get some type of
injury and never race again. Hope I'm wrong though

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by senator L

After listening to Mr Zayat and all his comments
I was believing they would race him again. After watching
NBC's Kenny Rice interviewing the family and listening to
Mr Zayat I think American Pharoah will get some type of
injury and never race again. Hope I'm wrong though

Save a real injury no chance

[knickslions2]

Originally Posted by senator L

After listening to Mr Zayat and all his comments
I was believing they would race him again. After watching
NBC's Kenny Rice interviewing the family and listening to
Mr Zayat I think American Pharoah will get some type of
injury and never race again. Hope I'm wrong though

[Alabama Stakes]

His word is good. Haskell it is. I think he gets it. For the good of the country,hossracing, and duty and humanity

[RolloTomasi]

Don't forget that Zayat is not averse to making deals nor is Baffert shy about accepting appearance fees. Monmouth obviously is the target, but perhaps the lure of a more lucrative package, weaker competition, and more time off from the Belmont Stakes will win out. Canterbury is making a play, and it wouldn't be a shock to see an established second-tier Derby (i.e. West Virginia, Pennsylvania, or Indiana) follow suit. Certainly, the owners of past Triple Crown winners have been successfully hooked by such opportunistic one-offs (see Secretariat, see Seattle Slew).

Waiting for a later race would also cut down hope of a Travers start or a race against older horses before the BC Classic.

[senator L]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

His word is good. Haskell it is. I think he gets it. For the good of the country,hossracing, and duty and humanity

I hope so. I just found it odd during the interview he said
"as long as he's healthy" about 3 times.
I was thinking Freudian slip

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

His word is good. Haskell it is. I think he gets it. For the good of the country,hossracing, and duty and humanity

From what I hear as long as it has nothing to do with his money his word is good.

[DonGuido]

Originally Posted by knickslions2

I wonder who will challenge him there if he goes. Most likely a small field. I would think Carpe Diem maybe would go but not sure else.

Or better to say what horse will be running with him. He may be "challenged" by a few older but even that is questionable unless he has an off day. At 9 to 10 furlongs who could beat him if he runs his normal race?

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by DonGuido

Or better to say what horse will be running with him. He may be "challenged" by a few older but even that is questionable unless he has an off day. At 9 to 10 furlongs who could beat him if he runs his normal race?

That's what's crazy and why the TC seemed certain somehow. How is anybody good enough? He wouldn't fold on any normal day. I wonder what the press would be doing with it if he'd won that first maiden attempt and been undefeated. It might help that he's not so there isn't some 'Is this the day he loses?' drama.

[DonGuido]

I've said it here before and I'll say it again . . . I don't think we've seen his best yet and the months coming up will tell us just how super this super horse is.

[letswastemoney]

Originally Posted by DonGuido

Or better to say what horse will be running with him. He may be "challenged" by a few older but even that is questionable unless he has an off day. At 9 to 10 furlongs who could beat him if he runs his normal race?

Even Secretariat lost against older horses. American Pharoah could lose against them too.

Against 3 year olds though, he's invincible.

[jnunan4759]

I think it's definitely Haskell and PA Derby. I know Steve doesn't like it, but it worked for Bob last year.

Maybe if he does go there we can emphasize the horrible 29% trifecta takeout. It's robbery. I thought it was the state, but after a year of calling my state rep found out that the state only takes 2.5% of ANY bet. The rest of the thievery is by the track and the PTHA. No big surprise when you realize the Horsemen's Assoc. is run by lawyers in shiny suits.

Thievery, plain and simple. 26.5% of your trifecta ticket off the top. 13% for me, Bob Green and 13% for you, Mike Balezzi. Let's go out and buy some shiny suits.

Do either of those two have any shame ? That's awful to do to people, especially horseplayers. I couldn't sleep at night.

PARX is a corrupt organization, always has been. It's a Lebanese money laundering operation and always has been. I knew it but raced there because there was nowhere else. I raced at Penn Nat, but that's even more corrupt.

[jnunan4759]

I remember back in the late 1990's that I was told Philadelphia Park had never paid any US taxes. I was told that they were in such dire straits they had to take an 18% mortgage and the the only one who would do that was the cousin of the Lebanese owner. This Lebanese owner, to my knowledge, has never seen PARX. Bob Green doesn't own PARX.

He took this huge tax deduction and sent millions back to Lebanon for years and years. And the PTHA stood by and bought in.

That's the real story.

[Benny]

I think it's definitely Haskell"

Its run on Sunday, and is Zayats' home track too.

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by jnunan4759

I remember back in the late 1990's that I was told Philadelphia Park had never paid any US taxes. I was told that they were in such dire straits they had to take an 18% mortgage and the the only one who would do that was the cousin of the Lebanese owner. This Lebanese owner, to my knowledge, has never seen PARX. Bob Green doesn't own PARX.

He took this huge tax deduction and sent millions back to Lebanon for years and years. And the PTHA stood by and bought in.

That's the real story.

Quit pu$$y footing around already. What are your true thoughts on Bob Green and Philadelphia Park?