Triple Crown Not Great For Horse Racing....

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Ever hear of the Scientific Method?

It's a technique for experimentation where you hold all other things constant to measure the effect of the one variable being studied.

So, when you see the state of horse racing in 2015 as a constant, and the variable is whether or not we had a Triple Crown winner, are you going to assert that having it is no better than not having it?

I think not.

As you pointed out, at least there was attention and interest. Some of that will carry over. Even more so if American Pharoah goes to the Haskell as announced today, and hopefully the Travers and Breeders' Cup Classic. He'll be in the news again and people will be interested. Imagine if he wins the Haskell and Travers? The Breeders' Cup could be huge.

Not trying to be critical, but you had to really bend that curve to make the Triple Crown success into a negative for horse racing. It didn't matter what the inputs were - the answer was negative. f(x) = "pessimism".

the only negatives are that for the next year or two, some interest may wane...but i'd imagine that a lot of people will still go to the belmont if the tc is on the line, everyone wants to be a witness to history. the big help to the belmont, is the derby winner taking the preakness. that is more of an effect than how long ago the tc was won.
the other real negative is just regarding the one horse-it's been so long, that we all know he's going to be rushed to retirement like secretariat, and not run longer like the two who followed in 77 and 78.

[ghartman02]

I grew up in Horse Racing, my Dad owned them, and all I really cared about was our horses. Then in 1969 I went to the KY Derby for the first time and fell in love (also went to Keeneland and did the same). Then in 1973, I saw Secretariat win the Derby, and when he won the Belmont I became a fan. So who knows what this will do. Can you get excited in the 4th race at Monmouth on a Friday? No, but you can love the horse and betting. I'm not a hot shot gambler. However, I love the sport and often times I break even. Example: I can go to a Cincinnati Reds game and drop $30 for a ticket, $30 for a couple of beers, maybe a dog and a drink and my day is $70 or so. I can go to the track and I can spend $70. At the Reds game my wallet is empty, but at the track, even if I come home with $50, the day cost me $20 and on a day like BlueGrass Day at Keeneland, that's cool. If I win a few, and I come home with $80, I got paid $10 to go to the track! In 1977, Poor Seattle Slew was kinda boring so he didn't get the press (until later), and 1978 Affirmed had Alydar which made that thrilling. Hopefully with smart marketing, and knocking of heads the sport can be the great sport it is...we just got to get people to find out about it!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by ghartman02

I grew up in Horse Racing, my Dad owned them, and all I really cared about was our horses. Then in 1969 I went to the KY Derby for the first time and fell in love (also went to Keeneland and did the same). Then in 1973, I saw Secretariat win the Derby, and when he won the Belmont I became a fan. So who knows what this will do. Can you get excited in the 4th race at Monmouth on a Friday? No, but you can love the horse and betting. I'm not a hot shot gambler. However, I love the sport and often times I break even. Example: I can go to a Cincinnati Reds game and drop $30 for a ticket, $30 for a couple of beers, maybe a dog and a drink and my day is $70 or so. I can go to the track and I can spend $70. At the Reds game my wallet is empty, but at the track, even if I come home with $50, the day cost me $20 and on a day like BlueGrass Day at Keeneland, that's cool. If I win a few, and I come home with $80, I got paid $10 to go to the track! In 1977, Poor Seattle Slew was kinda boring so he didn't get the press (until later), and 1978 Affirmed had Alydar which made that thrilling. Hopefully with smart marketing, and knocking of heads the sport can be the great sport it is...we just got to get people to find out about it!

i'm not a hot shot gambler either...but i love it. doesn't matter if it's a big day or a small one with rats running.
lol
i'll never forget at AP, i bet a horse, was told 'why'd you do that, it's a rat'. and then i got to laugh at the reaction from brian when that rat won! man, that was a fun day. i need to go back there.