American Pharoah with authority

[clambeau]

Who's tot say Verve isn't a quality horse.... His connections and breeding, not to mention looks are all TOP SHELF... don't dismiss late bloomers

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by clambeau

Who's tot say Verve isn't a quality horse.... His connections and breeding, not to mention looks are all TOP SHELF... don't dismiss late bloomers

He is a plodder who isn't very good. I don't think that takes away from AP. They flew the first quarter and literally no one else ran. He probably liked the slop just like AP. I highly doubt he ever wins a stakes. He was all out at 3-5 to beat an Eoin Harty horse at Keeneland in a MSW the race before.

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by clambeau

Who's tot say Verve isn't a quality horse.... His connections and breeding, not to mention looks are all TOP SHELF... don't dismiss late bloomers

Did you just call Dallas Stewart a top shelf trainer?