American Pharoah with authority

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by DonGuido

Who cares about the critics, nothing will silence them . . . it's what they get paid for or satisfy there ego for. Mr. Z got what he deserved. He ran the best race of his life and it was for noting. BTW- I disagree, Mr. Z was sent (going) as hard as Mr. Z could go notta . . . don't believe otherwise. You can't believe Nakatani was holding him back can you?

Not quite. He earned $45,000 for finishing 5th and beat the Derby runner-up. If you ran this race 100 times, perhaps he does better. And what did he deserve exactly? To be vanned-off?

[fpsoxfan]

I watched the race with my son and his friend, who are both 20. They have really taken to the game. They are excited about possibly seeing a triple crown.
I explained to them that I was 9 years old when the last time we had a triple crown winner. This is just one reason why the American Pharoah story is great. We are getting younger people in the game, by drawing attention to what greatness in this game really is. I'm looking forward to June 6th!!!! Plus it's my wifes birthday.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by fpsoxfan

I watched the race with my son and his friend, who are both 20. They have really taken to the game. They are excited about possibly seeing a triple crown.
I explained to them that I was 9 years old when the last time we had a triple crown winner. This is just one reason why the American Pharoah story is great. We are getting younger people in the game, by drawing attention to what greatness in this game really is. I'm looking forward to June 6th!!!! Plus it's my wifes birthday.

"E-street" will be hoppin!

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by fpsoxfan

I watched the race with my son and his friend, who are both 20. They have really taken to the game. They are excited about possibly seeing a triple crown.
I explained to them that I was 9 years old when the last time we had a triple crown winner. This is just one reason why the American Pharoah story is great. We are getting younger people in the game, by drawing attention to what greatness in this game really is. I'm looking forward to June 6th!!!! Plus it's my wifes birthday.

Young and old- a friend of mine went to Belmont with me for the first time last year, and bought a ticket for this year's a week ago, to make sure she could get in, regardless of whether there is a Triple Crown or not. She also bought one for her 70-year-old mother, who is coming from Pennsylvania, purely because hearing my friend talk about how much fun last year was made her want to go, too.

[DonGuido]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

Not quite. He earned $45,000 for finishing 5th and beat the Derby runner-up. If you ran this race 100 times, perhaps he does better. And what did he deserve exactly? To be vanned-off?

I should have said Wayne Lukas got what he deserved for his ignorant reason for entering him in the first place.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by DonGuido

I should have said Wayne Lukas got what he deserved for his ignorant reason for entering him in the first place.

What was his "ignorant reason?"

[DonGuido]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

What was his "ignorant reason?"

Something to the effect (don't remember the exact words) of Lukas admitting and saying that Mr. Z has little chance running with these horses but he may be able to compromise one of them. He may be getting senile?

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by DonGuido

Something to the effect (don't remember the exact words) of Lukas admitting and saying that Mr. Z has little chance running with these horses but he may be able to compromise one of them. He may be getting senile?

It's not that he's senile.

He's an egotistical ******* that puts his pride first, before the horse.

I hope Zayats never send him another horse.

Lukas is very shortsighted and plays the short game over the long game.

[DonGuido]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

It's not that he's senile.

He's an egotistical ******* that puts his pride first, before the horse.

I hope Zayats never send him another horse.

Lukas is very shortsighted and plays the short game over the long game.

Doesn't sound like the definition of "Greatness" to me. Maybe he is just lucky or it's all about the assistants who have gone on to be "pretty good" trainers themselves.

[Travis Stone]

Every spring the same story plays out...

One group always wants the other group to crown [insert horse here] as a superstar while the other group wants the other group to not crown [insert horse here] as the superstar yet. A third group wants themselves to be crowned because they spotted [insert horse here] before anyone else did as the next superstar.

But ultimately the economic engine in this sport - gambling - is best served by creating logical and thorough discussions about what produces the results in horse racing. Unfortunately, the groups above struggle to do this without insulting others or assuming the other group does not ultimately want the same thing.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

It's not that he's senile.

He's an egotistical ******* that puts his pride first, before the horse.

I hope Zayats never send him another horse.

Lukas is very shortsighted and plays the short game over the long game.

It's not like he has too much longer to go.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

What was his "ignorant reason?"

Because you should keep horses in barn or in hyperbaric chambers until they are busting out of their skin and only run them when the stars are aligned perfectly.

In case you forgot Travis DWL is an all time great trainer that was just lucky his whole career and really doesnt know horses well...LOL the insanity never stops

[DonGuido]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Because you should keep horses in barn or in hyperbaric chambers until they are busting out of their skin and only run them when the stars are aligned perfectly.

In case you forgot Travis DWL is an all time great trainer that was just lucky his whole career and really doesnt know horses well...LOL the insanity never stops

Sure, one of the greatest all time but it doesn't stop him from being ignorant now and then does it? I'm sure many trainers think the same thing at times but they're smart enough not to say it out loud publicly. We'll, some of them say stupid things often.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Because you should keep horses in barn or in hyperbaric chambers until they are busting out of their skin and only run them when the stars are aligned perfectly.

In case you forgot Travis DWL is an all time great trainer that was just lucky his whole career and really doesnt know horses well...LOL the insanity never stops

[OldDog]

Well, this thread was a fun read.

Yes, AP's time was slow, hardly a surprise considering the track condition. Hustled to the lead, his opening half was fast enough, and then he relaxed. He did exactly what VE asked him to do. The horse eventually separated himself from the field, and Victor barely even showed him the whip in the stretch, so the time means next to nothing to me.

I know "the odds" are against him winning the Belmont, but I'm liking his chances, even against Frosted and the Pletcher trio. This horse shows heart.

But what do I know. I even like FLW.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by OldDog

Well, this thread was a fun read.

Yes, AP's time was slow, hardly a surprise considering the track condition. Hustled to the lead, his opening half was fast enough, and then he relaxed. He did exactly what VE asked him to do. The horse eventually separated himself from the field, and Victor barely even showed him the whip in the stretch, so the time means next to nothing to me.

I know "the odds" are against him winning the Belmont, but I'm liking his chances, even against Frosted and the Pletcher trio. This horse shows heart.

But what do I know. I even like FLW.

Nice post.