FLORIDA 2YO TRAINING SALES: F-T February & OBS March

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Easy Goer Otis

Thanks, Dunbar!

We also purchased another 2yo ON Adena-bred HIP118, who we are really excited about. Sire is Street Boss (Street Cry IRE). Dam is Stakes running sprinter Velvet Moss (Shamardal).

Street Moss???

My family is in Buffalo, so they will hopefully be able to see these horses run at Woodbine or PID. Gives me another reason to go home for a visit.

Cheers,

O

I liked this filly. You did well to get her for 35k. If she had breezed she likely would have brought double

[Easy Goer Otis]

'Bama: Shamma lamma ding dong!

Cannon Shell: Thanks for the comment. Really glad to hear your positive opinion of this filly! Now we let Nick go to work. And wait. And hope.

Cheers!

Otis

[Danzig]

good luck with the new buy!

[Gate Dancer]

Love the pedigrees on both of those..........please keep us posted on the development. Best of luck!!

[Easy Goer Otis]

Originally Posted by Gate Dancer

Love the pedigrees on both of those..........please keep us posted on the development. Best of luck!!

Thanks, Gate Dancer!

Our 2YO fillies have had their names registered:

1) MISTEVIOUS (Stephen Got Even)
2) BOSSY BETTY LOU (Street Boss)

They are in Florida training under Nick Caruso and he said they are doing great. Will be fun to watch them develop! I'll keep you guys posted.

My partner (Mark Polivka) wants to expand his racing stable and asked me to help him with a business plan. It's an exciting enough opportunity that I stepped back after 25 years as International Director at Blistex Inc. to spend more time doing it. (Note I will still do consulting work for Blistex).

My partner is bringing a teaser brochure to Dubai with him to see if anybody wants to help stake us and prove out the model.

He is part owner of Euro Charline and is going to watch her run. Ryan Moore on top.

Amazing series of events in a relatively short period of time. Exciting to be heading toward new horizons. I'm really fortunate I was in a position to do this when the opportunity came knocking. We'll see how it goes!

Cheers,

Otis

[Uncle Daddy]

Curious what you auction experts think about the Adena offerings only galloping vs. breezing? Normal, significant ...?

Spent a little time in the sales barns Tuesday before auction. really like the Court Vision colt Hip #86

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Uncle Daddy

Curious what you auction experts think about the Adena offerings only galloping vs. breezing? Normal, significant ...?

Spent a little time in the sales barns Tuesday before auction. really like the Court Vision colt Hip #86

That is how they (Adena Springs) have always done it, dating back to when I first started going to 2 year old sales back in 2005. They never work their horses. They just gallop them. Adena Springs usually has a totally separate sale for their horses. It was unusual for these horses to be in this sale. They didn't belong in this sale. The Fasig Tipton Florida Sale is a boutique sale for select horses. I think this was kind of a one time experiment. I will be extremely surprised if Fasig Tipton allows the Adena Springs horses in the sale next year. For those horses to be in that sale was a travesty. It would be like allowing a couple of dozens golfers who can't break 100 to play in the US Open.

I doubt a single one of those Adena Springs horses could have gotten into that sale if they weren't owned by Stronach. My guess is that he made some type of deal with Fasig Tipton to allow those horses into the sale in exchange for him allowing the sale to be at Gulfstream. That is not to say that it isn't possible for one or two of those horses to turn out to be good horses. Mine That Bird was a $12,000 yearling and he won the Derby. So it would not be impossible for a couple of those horses to end up being good horses.

[Easy Goer Otis]

My partner has a pretty strong opinion that 2Yo's should not be fully exerted until they have the proper physical foundation, which is usually several months from now. So he was only looking at horses who were galloping.

Cheers,

Otis

[Cannon Shell]

It is much harder to select horses based on galloping than breezing.

While his hypothesis may or may not be correct, in the days where horses made more starts and had longer careers, they were already racing two year olds by this time of the year

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

That is how they (Adena Springs) have always done it, dating back to when I first started going to 2 year old sales back in 2005. They never work their horses. They just gallop them. Adena Springs usually has a totally separate sale for their horses. It was unusual for these horses to be in this sale. They didn't belong in this sale. The Fasig Tipton Florida Sale is a boutique sale for select horses. I think this was kind of a one time experiment. I will be extremely surprised if Fasig Tipton allows the Adena Springs horses in the sale next year. For those horses to be in that sale was a travesty. It would be like allowing a couple of dozens golfers who can't break 100 to play in the US Open.

I doubt a single one of those Adena Springs horses could have gotten into that sale if they weren't owned by Stronach. My guess is that he made some type of deal with Fasig Tipton to allow those horses into the sale in exchange for him allowing the sale to be at Gulfstream. That is not to say that it isn't possible for one or two of those horses to turn out to be good horses. Mine That Bird was a $12,000 yearling and he won the Derby. So it would not be impossible for a couple of those horses to end up being good horses.

Boutique sales are dead. FT is trying to compete with OBS by having horses for the "middle" market too and Frank is willing to supply them. The only Boutique sale left is Saratoga

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Boutique sales are dead. FT is trying to compete with OBS by having horses for the "middle" market too and Frank is willing to supply them. The only Boutique sale left is Saratoga

Fasig Tipton has horses for the middle market at Timonium in May. That Florida sale is very hard to get into. They don't typically take horses that are going to to sell for $30,000. The average horse at that sale sold for $280,000 in 2014 and the median price was $180,000. In 2013 it was $385,000 and $300,000. We will see if they allow Frank's horses back next year. I doubt it. It cheapens the sale.