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Old 02-23-2015, 06:56 PM
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CHENILLE
filly, Pentire-Charmed
Trainer: Tony Pike (no Derby wins)
Jockey: Rory Hutchings (no Derby wins)

7 starts
2 wins
3 seconds
0 thirds

NZ$25,525

No stakes races

This filly is a half-sister to the G2 winner and G1 placed Chintz. Chenille started slowly in her own career but has been spectacular in winning her last two races by 3.3 lengths and 3.5 lengths. She is getting better and better as she stretches out over longer distances and I think she could be a dangerous longshot in the Derby.

Current odds: 12
My ranking: She wasn't on the radar when I last did the list, but I would find room for her now! I'll put her 6th.

New list:

1. Volkstok'n'barrell
2. Mongolian Khan
3. Vavasour
4. McQueen
5. Sound Proposition
6. Chenille
7. Prima
8. Midnitemagicman
9. Giant Turtle
10. Dee I Cee
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Old 02-23-2015, 10:27 PM
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MIDNITEMAGICMAN
gelding, Tavistock-Keep Alight
Trainer: Donna & Dean Logan (Habibi 2013)
Jockey: Vinnie Colgan (Roysyn 1995, Zonda 1997, Hades 1999, Redoute's Dancer 2007, Habibi 2013 - all-time record)

8 starts
1 win
2 seconds
3 thirds

NZ$50,775

2nd Foal Stakes
2nd Trevor Eagle Memorial
3rd Jesters Pies Salver
4th Gr. 2 Avondale Guineas

He took a while to win one, but this guy never runs a bad race and I'm sure he'll make his team proud again on Derby day. The Logan team have Volkstok'n'barrell as their man Derby runner but Midnitemagicman is better than just a backup.

Current odds: 18
My ranking: 8th

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Old 02-23-2015, 11:01 PM
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PRIMA
gelding, Sir Percy-Azabella
Trainer: Doug Cave (no Derby wins)
Jockey: Mark du Plessis (no Derby wins)

4 starts
0 wins
1 second
1 third

NZ$29,850

2nd Gr. 2 Avondale Guineas
3rd Gr. 2 Waikato Guineas

Still a maiden, but he's come from nowhere to become a major Derby player. He was third in the Waikato Guineas at 130-1 and second in the Avondale Guineas at 54-1. He is the real deal and has to be respected again in the big one!

Current odds: 18
My ranking: 7th
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Old 02-24-2015, 02:13 PM
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MARGIN TRADER
gelding, Tavistock-Power And Might
Trainer: Michael Moroney & Chad Ormsby (Moroney: Great Command 1996, Cut The Cake 2003 and Xcellent 2004; Ormsby no Derby wins but second as a jockey aboard Historian in 2011)
Jockey: Rhys McLeod (AUS) (no Derby wins)

5 starts
1 win
1 second
0 thirds

NZ$22,976

5th Gr. 2 Great Northern Guineas
5th Gr. 2 Waikato Guineas
9th Gr. 2 Avondale Guineas

This could be a dangerous longshot. I loved the late finish he showed in his first few starts, and it looks like the distance will be no problem for him at all. He got no luck at all in the Avondale Guineas, stuck wide all the way and he was too far back with that slow pace. A few people (myself included) might have forgotten about him a little bit...

Current odds: 31
My ranking: not in the top 10
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Old 02-24-2015, 02:29 PM
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DEE I CEE
gelding, Istidaad-Smashed All Night
Trainer: Kevin Myers (C'est La Guerre 2008)
Jockey: not confirmed

4 starts
2 wins
2 seconds
0 thirds

NZ$11,750

No stakes races

It's hard to know what to expect from this gelding, a half-brother to the Telegraph runner-up Designated Driver. He hasn't faced stakes opposition yet, but he's looked strong in weaker grades. There's only one way to find out for sure how good he is, and that's in the Derby on Saturday.

Current odds: 18
My ranking: 10th
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Old 02-24-2015, 03:03 PM
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Two hours until the Derby field and draw is confirmed...
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Old 02-24-2015, 04:14 PM
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Two hours until the Derby field and draw is confirmed...
SO EXCITING!!!
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Old 02-25-2015, 08:42 PM
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Thanks for the info!

I was wondering if the draw has had any kind of effect of your list (?) OR if your list has since changed at all.

By the way, liked your Tavistock article.

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1. Volkstok'n'barrell
2. Mongolian Khan
3. Vavasour
4. McQueen
5. Sound Proposition
6. Chenille
7. Prima
8. Midnitemagicman
9. Giant Turtle
10. Dee I Cee
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Old 02-26-2015, 08:30 AM
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Ouch! Poor girl.

http://www.thoroughbrednews.com.au/a....aspx?id=78870

Enjoyed your Bonecrusher piece immensely.

Good Lord it is impossible to find a pic of Giant Turtle! Ah well, maybe after the Derby it'll be easier...
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Old 02-26-2015, 04:37 PM
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Oh, poor Silent Achiever. Hope she'll be okay.

Good question about the draw affecting the list! But I don't think I'll make any changes based on that - it's quite a long run to the first turn and most horses are able to find a good spot by then.
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Old 02-27-2015, 08:57 AM
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Happy Derby Day!

Will post my plays when I have finalized them but for now am thinking might just put Mongolian Khan in the top spot and use Giant Turtle, Sound Proposition, VSB of course and the fillies underneath but oh plenty of time left to ponder.

Anyway thank YOU for making it so much fun and for all your great insight and everything.

Yay... it's here!!!

edit - Man I just watched a couple of Vavasour's replays...kinda back to square 1 now.

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Old 02-27-2015, 03:49 PM
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Who wins, ed?
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Old 02-27-2015, 04:11 PM
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Will post my plays when I have finalized them but for now am thinking might just put Mongolian Khan in the top spot and use Giant Turtle, Sound Proposition, VSB of course and the fillies underneath but oh plenty of time left to ponder.
That sounds like a good call! But, yeah, Vavasour is the mystery horse here. She hasn't faced the boys in a stakes race yet and it's hard to know how the fillies compare to the colts and geldings. One way to find out!

So excited that Derby day has finally arrived. I'm here at the track now, and it's looking absolutely beautiful.

I'm sticking with VSB, I believe he's the best horse in the race. But if one of the others turn out to be even better than him today, I'll be happy to see that too.
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Old 02-27-2015, 05:04 PM
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I'm sticking with VSB, I believe he's the best horse in the race. But if one of the others turn out to be even better than him today, I'll be happy to see that too.
Same here.

You were so dead on when you pointed out that that was one of his best races (that last one when he finished 2nd)... VSB might very well be the better of the two. With so little separating two horses this good I think it's more I had to reach for.... something... and the something is, I guess, that Mongolian Khan has luck cause things just seem to go his way.

I boxed MK, VSB, Sound Proposition, Giant Turtle, Vavasour and Chenille and did a w/s on Giant Turtle just because. I will have to look again later on this evening and figure out what else to do...

Have a FANTASTIC time!!! Do a great job covering it and hope you nail it!

(... and come home safe, everyone).

HAPPY DERBY!
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