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Old 01-27-2015, 12:04 PM
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This should give the "Average American" a better chance

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/27/us...one-share&_r=1
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Old 01-27-2015, 12:46 PM
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Yeah their influence on American politics outshines the House of Sau...err nvmd.
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Old 01-28-2015, 09:22 AM
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Yeah their influence on American politics outshines the House of Sau...err nvmd.
Sad state of affairs when Disability becomes a growth industry. It is not inconceivable that this program is riddled with fraud.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/...isorder-429-dc
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Old 01-28-2015, 10:04 AM
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Sad state of affairs when Disability becomes a growth industry. It is not inconceivable that this program is riddled with fraud.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/...isorder-429-dc
All you have to do to qualify is to have earned 40 credits, 20 of which, must have been earned in the last 10 years.

Credits are limited to 4 a year and each credit equals $1,200 in income.

So work the month January for 10 years at $8/hour, (162 Hrs.) and you meet the minimum.

With a total contribution to SS of $1,488 (6.2% employee/6.2% employer on 12K) and an average monthly SSDI payment being $1,148 the claimant becomes a net burden to the program before his/her second disability payment.

Bringing the plan back to reality by raising each credit to equal $4,000 in income or reaching a maximum of 4 credits at $16,000/year would be a good start. While we all concern ourselves with individual fraudulent claims the bigger fraud is built into the program with the overly lenient qualifications.

Not so sure people whose mental disability is so severe they are dependent should be allowed to drive, drink, gamble, marry, vote or have any children or animals in their care? That consideration may encourage many to think twice before declaring themselves unemployable and because of mood swings.
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Old 01-28-2015, 11:02 AM
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Yeah leave it up to the influential 'conservatives' to push for a cut.

This is a major example of why the system is rigged and both parties are part of the machine.

The last thing we should be doing as a people is go after other plebs. We're doing exactly what they want.

I get too heated talking about this stuff so I'll just stop. Poor people didn't create this mess.
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Old 01-28-2015, 11:05 AM
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Yeah leave it up to the influential 'conservatives' to push for a cut.

This is a major example of why the system is rigged and both parties are part of the machine.

The last thing we should be doing as a people is go after other plebs. We're doing exactly what they want.

I get too heated talking about this stuff so I'll just stop. Poor people didn't create this mess.
Exactly. And the Uber Rich have convinced the middle/lower middle class that they have more in Common with the Uber Rich than those of lower class. Even though what the Uber Rich are doing will soon push them into the lower class.
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Old 01-28-2015, 03:24 PM
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Exactly. And the Uber Rich have convinced the middle/lower middle class that they have more in Common with the Uber Rich than those of lower class. Even though what the Uber Rich are doing will soon push them into the lower class.
It's already begun. You've got a president that's already crowing about how he's gotten everything is back to normal (with respect to unemployment).

Only problem, "middle class" by his standards is now a couple that makes 54K COMBINED.

So the savior of the universe has gleefully proclaimed "Mission Accomplished" and the disparity between the rich and the poor has never been greater.

Only one thing for certain, they are not going to bear the brunt of the 16 trillion dollar hole he's dug.

Both parties working together to destroy the nation by pillaging anything that isn't nailed down to stuff in their pockets. All bought and paid for.

Can't wait for the Jeb Bush / Hilliary Clinton debates in 2016. Should be scintillating. Or to be told how, yet again, I'm "throwing my vote away" by naively refusing to accept it
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Exactly. And the Uber Rich have convinced the middle/lower middle class that they have more in Common with the Uber Rich than those of lower class. Even though what the Uber Rich are doing will soon push them into the lower class.


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It's already begun. You've got a president that's already crowing about how he's gotten everything is back to normal (with respect to unemployment).

Only problem, "middle class" by his standards is now a couple that makes 54K COMBINED.

So the savior of the universe has gleefully proclaimed "Mission Accomplished" and the disparity between the rich and the poor has never been greater.

Only one thing for certain, they are not going to bear the brunt of the 16 trillion dollar hole he's dug.

Both parties working together to destroy the nation by pillaging anything that isn't nailed down to stuff in their pockets. All bought and paid for.

Can't wait for the Jeb Bush / Hilliary Clinton debates in 2016. Should be scintillating. Or to be told how, yet again, I'm "throwing my vote away" by naively refusing to accept it
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