Quality Road

[Rupert Pupkin]

Here are the final standings for the freshman sires of 2014. I think Super Saver had a better year than Quality Road. Half of Quality Road's money was from one horse (Hootenanny, who won the BC Juvenille turf). I think the two big duds were Eskenderaya and Blame, neither of whom even cracked the top 10.


http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...sts/first-crop

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Here are the final standings for the freshman sires of 2014. I think Super Saver had a better year than Quality Road. Half of Quality Road's money was from one horse (Hootenanny, who won the BC Juvenille turf). I think the two big duds were Eskenderaya and Blame, neither of whom even cracked the top 10.


http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...sts/first-crop

I wouldn't toss Blame yet.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I wouldn't toss Blame yet.

Yes. Who was expecting a later-developing 9-10f type to throw precocious win-early runners..

[dellinger63]

Quality Road hails from some pretty regal bloodlines. His breeder and owner, Edward Evans, knows about endurance,

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Yes. Who was expecting a later-developing 9-10f type to throw precocious win-early runners..

Have to give him 3 or 4 crops to pan out.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I wouldn't toss Blame yet.

I give him very little shot. Most of his two year olds were just not good movers. They had a very poor way of going. Their knee action was terrible. If he had pretty movers that just weren't that fast, then I would have some hope that they may do well when they stretch out. But that wasn't the case. Most of them were just ugly movers. I would be extremely surprised if he makes it as a sire.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I give him very little shot. Most of his two year olds were just not good movers. They had a very poor way of going. Their knee action was terrible. If he had pretty movers that just weren't that fast, then I would have some hope that they may do well when they stretch out. But that wasn't the case. Most of them were just ugly movers. I would be extremely surprised if he makes it as a sire.

You'll say anything to diminish Zenyatta's legacy.

Weren't there a couple of decent Blames early in the year? I thought there was some hype on his first couple of runners.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

You'll say anything to diminish Zenyatta's legacy.

Weren't there a couple of decent Blames early in the year? I thought there was some hype on his first couple of runners.

I'm sure you were only kidding but I don't think Blame's performance as a sire will have much impact on Zenyatta's legacy.

There were a couple Blame two year olds that looked pretty good. But the vast majority did not look good at all.

Based on race career, it's tough to predict who will be a good sire. A couple of the best sires right now are Tapit and Malibu Moon. Tapit won a few races but overall he didn't accomplish all that much on the track. I think he only ran about 5 times total. Malibu Moon only ran twice. I don't think too many people would have predicted that either one of those would be star sires.

If you would have asked me who was going to be better between Eskenderaya and Super Saver, I would have said Eskenderaya. I thought he was a much better horse than Super Saver. But after the first few two year old sales this year, then I had the opposite opinion. There were a lot of Super Saver two year olds that looked like they could really run. Most of the Eskenderayas looked awful and that has pretty much panned out on the track so far.

[tanner12oz]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I wouldn't toss Blame yet.

I second this...

[skyfire]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Here are the final standings for the freshman sires of 2014. I think Super Saver had a better year than Quality Road. Half of Quality Road's money was from one horse (Hootenanny, who won the BC Juvenille turf). I think the two big duds were Eskenderaya and Blame, neither of whom even cracked the top 10.


http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...sts/first-crop

Way to early to comment on success at stud -Esky and Blame are likely to have runners develop at 3

[outofthebox]

I'm going to have a Quality Road foal hitting the ground pretty soon. Mares name is Gold Collection. Going to be a La Bred. Crossing my fingers for a healthy foal.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by outofthebox

I'm going to have a Quality Road foal hitting the ground pretty soon. Mares name is Gold Collection. Going to be a La Bred. Crossing my fingers for a healthy foal.

that's awesome, good luck!!

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by outofthebox

I'm going to have a Quality Road foal hitting the ground pretty soon. Mares name is Gold Collection. Going to be a La Bred. Crossing my fingers for a healthy foal.

You'll post pictures, right?

Best wishes for a safe and easy delivery for your mare.

[outofthebox]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

You'll post pictures, right?

Best wishes for a safe and easy delivery for your mare.

For sure..And thanks to you and Danzig for your reply..

[Doonior1]

Best of luck for your mare. She is being bred to top "Quality" IMO.

[outofthebox]

Originally Posted by Doonior1

Best of luck for your mare. She is being bred to top "Quality" IMO.

We bought Gold Collection for 35k in foal to Quality Road. She is a young mare who has not yet had a foal make the races. I believe her first foal is a yearling by War Front. I'll have to keep an eye on that one.. Thanks for your write ups...

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by skyfire

Way to early to comment on success at stud -Esky and Blame are likely to have runners develop at 3

I don't think it's too early to tell. It's obviously too early to tell with 100% certainty. In this business, it's not too often that I would claim anything with 100% certainty. So I admit that there is still a small chance that Eskendereya and/or Blame could still turn out to be good sires. It is possible but very unlikely.

A I said before, the vast majority of their offspring are just not good movers. That's not going to change significantly as they get older. If you have a 2 year old who is a really ugly mover, he's not going to become a pretty mover as a 3 year old.

I can't think of a single sire over the years that had 2 year olds that practically all looked like crap and then went on to become a successful sire. It just doesn't happen. There are good sires that don't do great with 2 year olds. But there is a big difference between a route sire who has good looking two year olds, that are pretty movers, that look like they want to run long, as compared to a route sire whose 2 year olds simply look like crap. For example, Bernardini is a route sire who has good looking 2 year olds that are very pretty movers who look like they want to run long. Whereas the vast majority of Eskendereya and Blame's offspring look like they can't run period. They don't look like they will improve with distance or age.

[Easy Goer Otis]

From a bettor's standpoint, the most reliable of the top freshman sires were Looking at Lucky and Munnings.

Lucky sired the most winners (29) and had 10 repeat winners - more than double any other freshman sire.

Munnings had 27 winners - and at least from personal experience, some nice payoffs.

I love including progeny of these promising new stallions in my betting tickets.

Otis

[Duvalier]

Is there anything you don't whine about?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cardus

Is there anything not redboardable??

Anything??

I won a bet that you would post that.