Quality Road

[Doonior1]

Only time will tell. He has many years left to catch up with him.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Doonior1

Only time will tell. He has many years left to catch up with him.

The Golden Missle reference is one of the longest-running 'inside jokes' in Derby Trail lore.. I can't begin to explain. Should be safe to say that Quality Road will have a better stallion career than Golden Missle. He has already.

[Doonior1]

I'll look online and try to catch on. Thanks.

[largo1]

I will never forget Quality Road going bat$hit crazy at the post for the Classic. I hope he doesn't pass that trait to his offspring. I do think he was a talented horse, as well as a good-looking one.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Here are the final standings for the freshman sires of 2014. I think Super Saver had a better year than Quality Road. Half of Quality Road's money was from one horse (Hootenanny, who won the BC Juvenille turf). I think the two big duds were Eskenderaya and Blame, neither of whom even cracked the top 10.


http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...sts/first-crop

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Here are the final standings for the freshman sires of 2014. I think Super Saver had a better year than Quality Road. Half of Quality Road's money was from one horse (Hootenanny, who won the BC Juvenille turf). I think the two big duds were Eskenderaya and Blame, neither of whom even cracked the top 10.


http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...sts/first-crop

I wouldn't toss Blame yet.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I wouldn't toss Blame yet.

Yes. Who was expecting a later-developing 9-10f type to throw precocious win-early runners..

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I wouldn't toss Blame yet.

I give him very little shot. Most of his two year olds were just not good movers. They had a very poor way of going. Their knee action was terrible. If he had pretty movers that just weren't that fast, then I would have some hope that they may do well when they stretch out. But that wasn't the case. Most of them were just ugly movers. I would be extremely surprised if he makes it as a sire.

[tanner12oz]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I wouldn't toss Blame yet.

I second this...

[skyfire]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Here are the final standings for the freshman sires of 2014. I think Super Saver had a better year than Quality Road. Half of Quality Road's money was from one horse (Hootenanny, who won the BC Juvenille turf). I think the two big duds were Eskenderaya and Blame, neither of whom even cracked the top 10.


http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...sts/first-crop

Way to early to comment on success at stud -Esky and Blame are likely to have runners develop at 3

[outofthebox]

I'm going to have a Quality Road foal hitting the ground pretty soon. Mares name is Gold Collection. Going to be a La Bred. Crossing my fingers for a healthy foal.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by skyfire

Way to early to comment on success at stud -Esky and Blame are likely to have runners develop at 3

I don't think it's too early to tell. It's obviously too early to tell with 100% certainty. In this business, it's not too often that I would claim anything with 100% certainty. So I admit that there is still a small chance that Eskendereya and/or Blame could still turn out to be good sires. It is possible but very unlikely.

A I said before, the vast majority of their offspring are just not good movers. That's not going to change significantly as they get older. If you have a 2 year old who is a really ugly mover, he's not going to become a pretty mover as a 3 year old.

I can't think of a single sire over the years that had 2 year olds that practically all looked like crap and then went on to become a successful sire. It just doesn't happen. There are good sires that don't do great with 2 year olds. But there is a big difference between a route sire who has good looking two year olds, that are pretty movers, that look like they want to run long, as compared to a route sire whose 2 year olds simply look like crap. For example, Bernardini is a route sire who has good looking 2 year olds that are very pretty movers who look like they want to run long. Whereas the vast majority of Eskendereya and Blame's offspring look like they can't run period. They don't look like they will improve with distance or age.

[Easy Goer Otis]

From a bettor's standpoint, the most reliable of the top freshman sires were Looking at Lucky and Munnings.

Lucky sired the most winners (29) and had 10 repeat winners - more than double any other freshman sire.

Munnings had 27 winners - and at least from personal experience, some nice payoffs.

I love including progeny of these promising new stallions in my betting tickets.

Otis

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by skyfire

Way to early to comment on success at stud -Esky and Blame are likely to have runners develop at 3

Blame actually has a horse on the Derby trail. The Pletcher horse that won the Withers yesterday is by Blame. That is Blame's first stakes winner. I wouldn't get too optimistic on Blame based on one horse, but it is certainly better to have one stakes winner than no stakes winners.