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Old 12-23-2014, 08:09 AM
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Bringing this back to the front page for TG's annual free data giveaway..

Register and receive Thoro-Graph free between 12/26-12/31.

Myself and other TG users here happy to answer questions about the figs and data and how to use it..
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Old 12-23-2014, 12:25 PM
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In step #4, when downloading is there any reason the boxes are different colors?
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Old 12-23-2014, 01:41 PM
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In step #4, when downloading is there any reason the boxes are different colors?
ALW & STK's are Blue. Turf Green. Mdn's & Clm's White.
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Old 12-24-2014, 09:31 AM
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It looks like they have numbers from races in Europe .Is this
just a conversion from time form #'s or do they make their own?
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Old 12-24-2014, 09:37 AM
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THORO-PATTERN Sts Top% Pr% Off% X%
Turf 5 up Oct-Feb: Prev Top 43
, Top-X-Off (32
, 133
, 72
) 41 2 37 37 24
Trainer Profile - Motion, H. Graham
RUNS-BASED TG FIGURE-BASED
Starts Win% ITM% ROI Starts Top%Pair% Off% X% Category
6900 18 48 1.67 3762 20 Overall 33 27 20
3361 28 64 1.63 1953 19 36 28 17

Can you explain this part a bit - Top % Pair % Off % X%
thanks for your help!
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Old 12-24-2014, 09:40 AM
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THORO-PATTERN Sts Top% Pr% Off% X%
Turf 5 up Oct-Feb: Prev Top 43
, Top-X-Off (32
, 133
, 72
) 41 2 37 37 24
Trainer Profile - Motion, H. Graham
RUNS-BASED TG FIGURE-BASED
Starts Win% ITM% ROI Starts Top%Pair% Off% X% Category
6900 18 48 1.67 3762 20 Overall 33 27 20
3361 28 64 1.63 1953 19 36 28 17

Can you explain this part a bit - Top % Pair % Off % X%
thanks for your help!
It's the percentage of horses with that pattern who ran a new top, paired, ran an off (within two points of top) or an X (more than two points worse than top) race next out.
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THORO-PATTERN: Can you explain this part a bit - Top % Pair % Off % X%.. thanks for your help!
The Thoro-Pattern is the newest stat Jerry and Co. have crafted and it's based on a very significant number of prior performances. After not paying much attention to it early on, I'm seeing that it appears to be very accurate as an indicator of next-out effort in the scale of TG methodology..
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THORO-PATTERN Sts Top% Pr% Off% X%
Turf 5 up Oct-Feb: Prev Top 51, Off-Pr-Off (72, 51, 7) 324 4 33 43 20
Trainer Profile - Clement, Christophe
RUNS-BASED TG FIGURE-BASED
StartsWin% ITM% ROI Category Starts Top%Pair% Off% X%
4815 20 53 1.60 Overall 2458 16 40 33 11
2854 28 66 1.58 4-1 or less 1574 15 42 33 10
1422 11 40 1.44 over 4-1 to 10-1 682 15 39 34 12
539 7 24 2.10 over 10-1 202 22 29 33 17
122 16 48 1.09 Last 90 days 79 23 49 20 8
14 29 57 1.57 Last race under 11 days 9 11 56 22 11
1137 23 59 1.67 Last race 11-29 days 788 16 42 32 10
2061 21 55 1.45 Last race 30-89 days 1276 15 41 33 11
883 20 50 1.61 Last race 90+ days 385 16 35 35 14
422 21 52 1.51 2nd race off lay-off 251 19 40 28 12
233 24 58 1.57 3rd race off lay-off 168 16 43 33 8
1194 20 53 1.60 STK 962 11 41 40 9
735 21 56 1.57 5-y-o and up 630 6 41 43 10
5-y-o and up Nov-Jan 89 4 43 42 11
3510 21 53 1.66 Turf 1955 15 42 35 8
267 21 55 1.49 Off tracks (Dirt) 107 21 33 26 20
3517 21 53 1.60 Routes 1891 15 43 34 9
31 19 55 1.55 Adding bandages 22 14 36 32 18
After race 1-4pts off top 107 21 33 26 20
784 19 51 1.68 At GP 319 17 37 36 9
518 24 59 1.73 With Bravo, Joe 268 20 40 32 9

the race I am looking at is R8 Sat gp 1 1/2 La Prevoyante H. Grade III. trf
horse is clearbrook, so those #'s mean, clement is 20% with x % which isn't very good - correct?
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It looks like they have numbers from races in Europe .Is this
just a conversion from time form #'s or do they make their own?
They are making their own.
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