Chopped Liver

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Subtitle to this book: As long as I'm selling my trash,let me add a few cheap shots! Part of the conspiracy book club,I'm sure! As far as Nixon perpetuating the war...did you know that LBJs' family owned the construction company that made/constructed all the barracks and buildings in 'Nam? No fiduciary interests there! The country was in the mess before Dicky showed up. That war theory is nuts! The Isrealis' lost? News to me,although they are to be commended for no using human shields as the scum Hezobollah did. Just to refresh your memory,half the world have intel on Hussein and Al Queda and deduced the same as the US. So blame the world!

timm,
Your memory of history is far different from mine.
Nixon was elected on his promise to end the Vietnam war. Unfortunately, he had no plan. So he came up with something called "Vietnamiztion".
It only took four years and over 30,000 more American soldiers lives to demonstrate the fallacy. After he resigned in disgrace and Ford gave him a pardon, people were evacuated from the rooftop of the US Embassy with helicopters.
Do you remember anything?
"Those that ignore the lessons of history are condemned to repeat them."

ps...I'll do a seach and show you a pic of Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam Hussein. You might be right, we had intel, but not intelligence.
I don't blame the world...the jokers that sold the war to the gullible deserve the questions, and any and all answers they can fabricate.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

timm,
Your memory of history is far different from mine.
Nixon was elected on his promise to end the Vietnam war. Unfortunately, he had no plan. So he came up with something called "Vietnamiztion".
It only took four years and over 30,000 more American soldiers lives to demonstrate the fallacy. After he resigned in disgrace and Ford gave him a pardon, people were evacuated from the rooftop of the US Embassy with helicopters.
Do you remember anything?
"Those that ignore the lessons of history are condemned to repeat them."

ps...I'll do a seach and show you a pic of Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam Hussein. You might be right, we had intel, but not intelligence.
I don't blame the world...the jokers that sold the war to the gullible deserve the questions, and any and all answers they can fabricate.

DTS: love the way you parse everything together there...the world community agreed with US stance...so your outrage should be aimed at them as well. If I remember correctly...DEM congress...so plenty of blame to go around. One thing is sure(11/19 post)..we've shared the bed of many whores,and unfortunately the offspring are biting us in the butt!

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

DTS: love the way you parse everything together there...the world community agreed with US stance...so your outrage should be aimed at them as well. If I remember correctly...DEM congress...so plenty of blame to go around. One thing is sure(11/19 post)..we've shared the bed of many whores,and unfortunately the offspring are biting us in the butt!

Timm,
Do you remember anything?
The "world community" consisted of a small "coalition". They were sold the same false "intelligence" as the American people.
Now, most of those countries have bailed out. Italy was the most recent.
Considering the results of the Nov 7 elections, so have the majority of Americans.
Dubbya (if that's the whore you're referring to) has the blood on his hands.
No amount of stuttering, stammering, or "Iraquiazation" (building security forces in a civil war) will wash it off. He sold it. He owns it.

If you get a chance, read Shakespeare's "McBeth".

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Timm,
Do you remember anything?
The "world community" consisted of a small "coalition". They were sold the same false "intelligence" as the American people.
Now, most of those countries have bailed out. Italy was the most recent.
Considering the results of the Nov 7 elections, so have the majority of Americans.
Dubbya (if that's the whore you're referring to) has the blood on his hands.
No amount of stuttering, stammering, or "Iraquiazation" (building security forces in a civil war) will wash it off. He sold it. He owns it.

If you get a chance, read Shakespeare's "McBeth".

You are wrong! It wasn't the coalition that manufactured..the entire intel community(enemies/allies)knew the info..coalition were the few who decided to take a stand! As I said in my 1st post on this thread..America bought and curried favor and influence as demonstrated during the past 50 yrs! The whores are the ones our govt. paid and worked with over those years to get us into this predicament. To lay it all at Bushs' feet is intellectually dishonest! I don't do Shakespeare,either!

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

You are wrong! It wasn't the coalition that manufactured..the entire intel community(enemies/allies)knew the info..coalition were the few who decided to take a stand! As I said in my 1st post on this thread..America bought and curried favor and influence as demonstrated during the past 50 yrs! The whores are the ones our govt. paid and worked with over those years to get us into this predicament. To lay it all at Bushs' feet is intellectually dishonest! I don't do Shakespeare,either!

Timm,
Are you serious?
Who was the president at the time of the invasion of Iraq?...The "commander-in-chief"? Who sent his Secretary of State to the UN (Powell) to claim that there were weapons of mass destruction? Who said "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED"? Who repeatedly tried to connect the invasion of Iraq and Saddam Hussein with the events of 9-11?
Sorry Timm, you can't reconstruct history once it's happened.
Intellectually dishonest! Indeed!

btw...try reading Shakespeare, you might learn something.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Timm,
Are you serious?
Who was the president at the time of the invasion of Iraq?...The "commander-in-chief"? Who sent his Secretary of State to the UN (Powell) to claim that there were weapons of mass destruction? Who said "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED"? Who repeatedly tried to connect the invasion of Iraq and Saddam Hussein with the events of 9-11?
Sorry Timm, you can't reconstruct history once it's happened.
Intellectually dishonest! Indeed!

btw...try reading Shakespeare, you might learn something.

DTS: Dude...you are so stuck on Bush! Go back thru the last 50 yrs. Did you understand anything I posted on this? We are reaping what we've sown...To set it at any one persons' feet is preposterous. You freakin know there where WMD's..but its convenient to your theory that they were moved. I'm not the one spinning history. Maybe our ancestors will clear out the bull in order to have the facts! btw...W.S. is for high school...that's where I left him!

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

DTS: Dude...you are so stuck on Bush! Go back thru the last 50 yrs. Did you understand anything I posted on this? We are reaping what we've sown...To set it at any one persons' feet is preposterous. You freakin know there where WMD's..but its convenient to your theory that they were moved. I'm not the one spinning history. Maybe our ancestors will clear out the bull in order to have the facts! btw...W.S. is for high school...that's where I left him!

Timm,
You are certainly entitled to believe anything you want.
The WMD's (supplied by the USA) during the Iran/Iraq war had deteriorated.
Saddam bluffed. Hans Blix spent years, YEARS!, looking for them.
Do a google of Scott Ritter (one of the inspectors). You might learn something.
The Iraq debacle belongs to G W Bush and his administration.
That's a fact.

btw...Shakespeare's words gain more meaning if you read them after high school. Truth endures, whether over days or centuries.
Deny all you want to.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

timm,
Your memory of history is far different from mine.
Nixon was elected on his promise to end the Vietnam war. Unfortunately, he had no plan. So he came up with something called "Vietnamiztion".
It only took four years and over 30,000 more American soldiers lives to demonstrate the fallacy. After he resigned in disgrace and Ford gave him a pardon, people were evacuated from the rooftop of the US Embassy with helicopters.
Do you remember anything?
"Those that ignore the lessons of history are condemned to repeat them."

ps...I'll do a seach and show you a pic of Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam Hussein. You might be right, we had intel, but not intelligence.
I don't blame the world...the jokers that sold the war to the gullible deserve the questions, and any and all answers they can fabricate.

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/

DTS: It was probably a Saturday nite potluck!