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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

On the +20/-12 method, all of the closers in the Derby are general bet againsts.

I've gotten away from worrying so much about big races over the years, the advantage situations are more plentiful if you seek them out at tracks all over the country.

There's no way I'm betting any of the closers in the Preakness. Loading up though? With who?

It was more of a joke and a bit a play in the next two weeks about how Orb is going to be just about a cinch, when in history we hear that quite often coming into the Preakness.

I don't know if he is a cinch, race dynamics change where he is up against it and I would not be so sure he is good enough to overcome it. The "who" well, that's a bit tougher. Oxbow is the most likely horse out of the Derby run a winning type race.