Chosen One 4 MVP Fans

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Originally Posted by Avery_Smartman

Sure.


Play with the sissies then.I suppose you're another one who claims James beat Detroit one on five,but his crummy team mates are the ones who lost to San Antonio.

I have never said this ever. Why do you always go to this? The simple facts are in this NBA season, they have missed, LeBron, Hughes, Pavlovic, Gibson, Z, Varejao for longer than 5 game periods at a time. Over 20 without Varejao and Pavlovic...approaching that with Gibson. 7 now without Z. My claim has always been that with these what I consider decent players. Not great players...not necessarily top players...although Z is certainly good, that the Cavs will win. They played above .500 ball in the recent stretch with Varejao and Pavlovic missing....above .500 with Gibson missing...now above .500 with Z missing. They went 0-6 with LeBron missing. The evidence is quite overwhelming. They are still 37-23 when LeBron suits up regardless of whom else is injured on any particular day. No matter how bad or good I or you or anyone else thinks the rest of the players on the team are...you still need the best of what you have to compete adequately. I simply think that their record when LeBron plays speaks to how good he is. And despite his late game slip ups the last two nights...especially tonight which may have cost them the game...he has had multiple superb performances in the 4th quarter time and time again this year. I go back to the back to backs in LA and Portland in January.

You have brought out his weaknesses as has pga time and time again. I grant you guys that. Maybe he is overrated. I simply don't think so. The Cleveland Cavaliers are one of the worst franchises in all of the league if you take away the 1976 season and the teams of the late 80s and early 90s...for the most part a horrendous franchise. I don't know how you can think despite your own personal disdain for the man and how he plays and his horrible efforts...how despite all that you can't say he hasn't been a boon to the franchise. for christ sakes they have 4 playoff series wins the last 2 years...the same number they had from 1970 through 2005. Forget just a second all the high school hype...the ESPN games in high school the magazine covers...all of that. What has happened to the franchise since he joined the team?? Yes, he has teammates and they are needed...but do you in all honesty think if the ping pong balls didn't go their way, they are in the finals last year?? As a fan I don't really care about his ego, about his money, about anything really. all humans make mistakes...he drives too fast, he wore a Yankee cap...dumb stuff. But for the most part he has made the Cleveland NBA team relevant if not single-handedly...darn near close to that. Those are the facts as I see them.