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Old 02-24-2008, 08:18 AM
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Default why monba wont win the foy

not sure why the huge hype on this one

looks to be dist limited /flys in from cali after getting beat by into mishchief
who lost next out.. a vote of no confidence by jv..3rd diff jock on em ..his races at church had no killers in them .why should he win here?
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Old 02-24-2008, 09:13 AM
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You make a good point...I picked him as I thougt he'd be a shot. With everyone on the bandwagon, I may change my pick.

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Old 02-24-2008, 10:08 AM
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  • ridden as so much the best in Churchill allowance
  • stole the spotlight in the Cashcall stretch
  • trained by Todd Pletcher

We don't really know a damn thing about the horse yet, but he keeps dropping hints that he has serious talent. FOY will be an excellent chance to actually learn something about Monba.
The wagering value of "potential" horses like this is determined by the odds. We don't get good value on Monba in the FOY(what does he go off here 4-1?), but depending on how deep we want to spread a wager he could be difficult to toss. Say we loved Kentucky Bear, and wanted to key KB in different levels of a trifecta or superfecta... including Monba in some of the slots is probably wise.
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Old 02-24-2008, 10:12 AM
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I don't get him at all either ( which probably gets him in the winner's circle ). He beat a terrible field at Churchill with an absolutely perfect trip and horses that run supposedly well after races are over, as he did in the Hollywood Futurity, are almost universally sucker bets.
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Old 02-24-2008, 10:26 AM
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for some reason, horses who close in the stretch like he did, become the horse who will 'win when distances get longer'. we see it every year. a horse closes furiously, and everyone (well, not everyone) thinks that had he just had a bit more to run, he'd have won.....

he's in my road to the roses stable.

but then, i had no clue who to put in there, and pletcher tends to win races leading up to the derby.
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Old 02-24-2008, 11:02 AM
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for some reason, horses who close in the stretch like he did, become the horse who will 'win when distances get longer'. we see it every year. a horse closes furiously, and everyone (well, not everyone) thinks that had he just had a bit more to run, he'd have won.....

he's in my road to the roses stable.

but then, i had no clue who to put in there, and pletcher tends to win races leading up to the derby.
He's in my stable too. It's not like there are that many nice ones to choose from regardless... LOL
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Old 02-25-2008, 02:18 AM
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for some reason, horses who close in the stretch like he did, become the horse who will 'win when distances get longer'. we see it every year. a horse closes furiously, and everyone (well, not everyone) thinks that had he just had a bit more to run, he'd have won.....
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And every once in a while, a Giacomo reinforces this idea.
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Old 02-24-2008, 08:34 PM
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Monba ran today like his sister, Gray Cache. I owned this filly at one time and she was not much of a runner or a looker.
With all the hype of Monba, I was becoming concerned I had sold a sister to a possible Derby horse. Not as worried after today!
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Old 02-24-2008, 08:39 PM
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Monba ran today like his sister, Gray Cache. I owned this filly at one time and she was not much of a runner or a looker.
With all the hype of Monba, I was becoming concerned I had sold a sister to a possible Derby horse. Not as worried after today!
LOL. Potential brush with brilliance, LOL. Oh well. Did the filly ever get bred? If the colt wins some stake, somewhere, anywhere, etc. -- she could be worth a few dollars. Then again, you said she wasn't anything to look at. Maybe not.

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Old 02-25-2008, 07:26 AM
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LOL. Potential brush with brilliance, LOL. Oh well. Did the filly ever get bred? If the colt wins some stake, somewhere, anywhere, etc. -- she could be worth a few dollars. Then again, you said she wasn't anything to look at. Maybe not.

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We sold her in foal to Royal Academy. Unsure after that.
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