Derby winners not posting work at Churchill

jms62 · #1 05-02-2011, 04:36 AM

I've been trying to research but have come up empty. Anyone have any stats on Derby
winners in recent times not posting an official work at Churchill?

Kasept · #2 05-02-2011, 04:46 AM

Funny Cide was one. Like Toby's Corner, he shipped in on Tuesday of Derby Week.

I'll ask Haskin later. He'll certainly remember.

MLC · #3 05-02-2011, 05:46 AM

Didn't Barbaro work at Fair Hill?

cakes44 · #4 05-02-2011, 09:57 AM

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Didn't Barbaro work at Fair Hill?

Might have, but I know he did get at least one work in at Churchill...and it got a bunch of people all over him.

outofthebox · #5 05-02-2011, 10:09 AM

What about Giacomo. Last breeze at HP?

Kasept · #6 05-02-2011, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by cakes44

Might have, but I know he did get at least one work in at Churchill...and it got a bunch of people all over him.

Barbaro had perhaps the greatest pre-Derby Churchill workout ever according to those who have seen them over the years..

Kasept · #7 05-02-2011, 10:27 AM

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What about Giacomo. Last breeze at HP?

Yes. Absolutely right.

VOL JACK · #8 05-02-2011, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

Barbaro had perhaps the greatest pre-Derby Churchill workout ever according to those who have seen them over the years..

I believe he worked a really strong half in like 47.
He looked like a freight train.

Welsch couldn't stop gushing about it.
Mike Wesch also raved about Street Sense and Rachel Alexandra going into the Oaks/ Derby also.

RolloTomasi · #9 05-02-2011, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK

I believe he worked a really strong half in like 47.
He looked like a freight train.

Welsch couldn't stop gushing about it.
Mike Wesch also raved about Street Sense and Rachel Alexandra going into the Oaks/ Derby also.

What did you get if you bet $2 to win on each of those?

I mean besides a bag of chalk.

VOL JACK · #10 05-02-2011, 11:55 AM

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What did you get if you bet $2 to win on each of those?

I mean besides a bag of chalk.

Are you effing serious?

I had the Pick 4 several times to a singled Barbaro....Check that payoff!

I also made a nice score on Street Sense... nice win bet and exacta.

When did 6/1 and 9/2 become chalk?

RolloTomasi · #11 05-02-2011, 12:31 PM

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When did 6/1 and 9/2 become chalk?

When they have a little asterisk by their odds in the result chart.

I wasn't asking what you personally put or won on those horses, by the way.

My point was that how many bettors needed to be "won over" to these horses because of a workout? They were already the top contenders going in.

ninetoone · #12 05-03-2011, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

When they have a little asterisk by their odds in the result chart.

I wasn't asking what you personally put or won on those horses, by the way.

My point was that how many bettors needed to be "won over" to these horses because of a workout? They were already the top contenders going in.

Barbaro didn't have the asterisk....he wasn't the favorite.

RolloTomasi · #13 05-03-2011, 01:09 PM

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Barbaro didn't have the asterisk....he wasn't the favorite.

I know. He was second choice at 6.1 to the 5.5-1 favorite. But you get the point I was trying to make anyways, right?

ateamstupid · #14 05-03-2011, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

When they have a little asterisk by their odds in the result chart.

I wasn't asking what you personally put or won on those horses, by the way.

My point was that how many bettors needed to be "won over" to these horses because of a workout? They were already the top contenders going in.

There are plenty of chalks who have underperformed in the Derby. It's always a concern. I don't think confirming the playability of a favorite or second choice because of a super workout is something to be dismissed.