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My Eclipse Ballot.. (Updated with Winners, Voting)
A few very difficult calls, including some that I hadn't anticipated being that involved (like 2yo male)..
Two-Year-Old Male: 1st - American Pharoah, 2nd - Texas Red, 3rd - Hootenany Two-Year-Old Filly: 1st - Lady Eli, 2nd - Take Charge Brandi , 3rd - Sunset Glow Three-Year-Old Male: : 1st - Bayern, 2nd - California Chrome, 3rd - Shared Belief Three-Year-Old Filly: 1st - Untapable, 2nd - Sweet Reason , 3rd - Lexie Lou Older Male: 1st - Palace Malice , 2nd - Goldencents, 3rd - Imperative Older Female: 1st - Close Hatches, 2nd - Don't Tell Sophia, 3rd - Iotapa Male Sprinter: 1st - Work All Week, 2nd - Private Zone, 3rd - Palace Female Sprinter: 1st - Judy the Beauty, 2nd - Artemis Agrotera, 3rd - Better Lucky Male Turf Horse: 1st - Main Sequence, 2nd - Wise Dan , 3rd - Kaigun Female Turf Horse: 1st - Dayatthespa, 2nd - La Tia, 3rd - Stephanie's Kitten Steeplechase Horse: 1st - Demonstrative, 2nd - Divine Fortune, 3rd - Makari Owner: 1st - Kaleem Shah, 2nd - Kenneth L. and Sarah K. Ramsey, 3rd - Winchell Thoroughbreds LLC Breeder: 1st - Winchell Thoroughbreds LLC, 2nd - Kenneth L. and Sarah K. Ramsey, 3rd - Chester & Mary Broman Trainer: 1st - Todd Pletcher, 2nd - Chad Brown , 3rd - Wesley Ward Jockey: 1st - Javier Castellano, 2nd - Victor Espinoza, 3rd - Joel Rosario Apprentice Jockey: 1st - Drayden Van Dyke, 2nd - Taylor Rice, 3rd - Juan Saez Horse of the Year: 1st - Bayern, 2nd - California Chrome, 3rd - Untapable
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Not into these awards that much as it really only matters
to those in ownership. I do think that California Chrome is 3 year old male champion and Bayern is HOY. IMO it all comes down to the races that they won. Chrome won the most prestigious races for 3 year old's and Bayern won the year end championship race. Wise Dan still gets the turf vote for me as he is reigning champion. Why didn't Main Sequence shorten up and go after Wise Dan? Seems that is what Dan is always hearing. |
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I'm curious as to how you think Todd should even be a finalist for the trainer Eclipse, much less the winner. In all seriousness, I thought he had a poor year all things considered. Certainly one's stock has to be taken into account. No?
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A rather unique and remarkable season for the sophs all the way around as it turned out.
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If you look at the season as a whole, it's not pretty.
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Didn't address the turf question, but Nick's is right: it's not close. Wise Dan coming back after the colic was a great story, but Main Sequence sweeping nearly all the traditional American turf route tests bears scrutiny. He's a deceptive horse in that his style and margins of victory fueled his critics as he built his resume, but the results are inarguable.
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Here's the GSW's.. 2014 Metropolitan Handicap (Gr. 1) Palace Malice 2014 Arkansas Derby (Gr. 1) Danza 2014 Besilu Florida Derby (Gr. 1) Constitution 2014 Alabama Stakes (Gr. 1) Stopchargingmaria 2014 Champagne Stakes (Gr. 1) Daredevil 2014 Claiborne Breeders' Futurity (Gr. 1) Carpe Diem 2014 Hopeful Stakes (Gr. 1) Competitive Edge 2014 Chandelier Stakes (Gr. 1) Angela Renee 2014 TVG Coaching Club American Oaks (Gr. 1) Stopchargingmaria 2014 Black-Eyed Susan Stakes (Gr. 2) Stopchargingmaria 2014 Risen Star Stakes (Gr. 2) Intense Holiday 2014 New Orleans Handicap (Gr. 2) Palace Malice 2014 Gulfstream Oaks (Gr. 2) In Tune 2014 Gazelle Stakes (Gr. 2) My Miss Sophia 2014 Dixiana Elkhorn Stakes (Gr. 2) Unitarian 2014 Nashua Stakes (Gr. 2) Blofeld 2014 Hawthorne Gold Cup Handicap (Gr. 2) Red Rifle 2014 Gulfstream Park Handicap (Gr. 2) Palace Malice 2014 Molly Pitcher Stakes (Gr. 2) Majestic River 2014 Top Flight Handicap (Gr. 2) Teen Pauline 2014 Futurity Stakes (Gr. 2) Blofeld 2014 Davona Dale Stakes (Gr. 2) Onlyforyou 2014 Forward Gal Stakes (Gr. 2) Onlyforyou 2014 Horseshoe Casino Cincinnati Spiral Stakes (Gr. 3) We Miss Artie 2014 Poker Stakes (Gr. 3) Jack Milton 2014 Smarty Jones Stakes (Gr. 3) Protonico 2014 Pimlico Special Stakes (Gr. 3) Revolutionary 2014 Schuylerville Stakes (Gr. 3) Fashion Alert 2014 Sam F. Davis Stakes (Gr. 3) Vinceremos 2014 American Derby (Gr. 3) Divine Oath 2014 Turnback the Alarm Handicap (Gr. 3) Dame Dorothy 2014 Razorback Handicap (Gr. 3) Golden Lad 2014 Discovery Handicap (Gr. 3) Protonico 2014 Kent Stakes (Gr. 3) Divine Oath 2014 Palm Beach Stakes (Gr. 3) Gala Award 2014 Westchester Stakes (Gr. 3) Palace Malice 2014 Cliff Hanger Stakes (Gr. 3) Winning Cause 2014 W. L. McKnight Handicap (Gr. 3) Divine Oath 2014 Old Hat Stakes (Gr. 3) Sweet Whiskey 2014 Skip Away Stakes (Gr. 3) Micromanage
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The number of horses who never won again after the listed race is positively scary.
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Thanks for putting your list out there. Only one I really have issues with is Lady Eli over TCB.
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Here are the year end (thru 12/29) horse category PP's for everyone's enjoyment: http://static.drf.com/eclipse/pdf/eclipse-pps.pdf
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At least he is able to get them their ever elusive Graded win for their breeding resumes.
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Steve, your ballot is spot on. I hope others come up with similar selections.
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Steve,
Thanks for your support for Dayatthespa! It would be fantastic to win! I'm rooting for Chad to get his Eclipse this year. Second in earnings plus three BC wins should give him a legitimate chance. Pletcher is so dominant, but based on percentages and his big day at Santa Anita, Chad should secure a lot of votes. |
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Crazy part with Todd is he gets twice as many horses as it looks like. He cuts the roster 25% before they leave the 2yo training facility and another 25% after their first start. He is dealing from a stacked deck with respect to these year end stats. Tough for you as a voter. |
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What about a sentimental case?
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The 80/20 rule is universal, but it's even worse in racing right now with 15% of trainers winning 85% of the stake money. It's a terrible construct.
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THX Cookie.. Jon White wrote that he thinks California Chrome will carry the day for 3yo and HOY. Part of the HOY vote scenario that's intriguing is the Main Sequence block. Would think those leaning there are anti-Bayern voters and help California Chrome's chances. Very unusual year..
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This is an age old argument that never really has a correct answer. For coach of the year in the 4 major sports. Do you give it to the guy with the most talented team that wins the championship? Or do you give it to the coach that has far less talent but has a good season? Voting for a Bill Belichick type is not a sexy vote, but is sometimes correct.
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