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Old 06-11-2011, 11:23 PM
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It's Tricky

Looked like a winner the entire race.
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Old 06-12-2011, 09:09 AM
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It's Tricky 105
Trappe Shot 112
Justin Phillip 96
CS Silk 101
Mission Approved 103
Ruler on Ice 100

What does a 112 for Trap Shot mean Khan of Khans received a 95? You can take that fig and wipe your butt with it.. The fig is fine what it means about Trap Shot is debatable. Jason Blewit called him the best sprinter in training on Belmont in 30. I kind of think Smiling Tiger would eat his lunch at 6 or 7.
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Old 06-12-2011, 09:42 AM
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They let both of them walk on the front end. Mission Approved was allowed to go 1:17, and he got brave. What were the other jocks thinking allowing him to do that?
Nick,

Has nothing to do with jocks allowing anything in either of the turf events, and everything to do with the soft turf..
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Old 06-12-2011, 09:56 AM
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Yesterday's Manhattan reminded me of when Interpatation walked around the track in the Turf Classic under similar (but probably worse) conditions and won at huge odds.
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Old 06-12-2011, 01:51 PM
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What does a 112 for Trap Shot mean Khan of Khans received a 95? You can take that fig and wipe your butt with it.. The fig is fine what it means about Trap Shot is debatable. Jason Blewit called him the best sprinter in training on Belmont in 30. I kind of think Smiling Tiger would eat his lunch at 6 or 7.
Khan of Khans got a 84 Freddy, which is right in line with how he has been running for awhile now.
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Old 06-12-2011, 02:36 PM
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What does a 112 for Trap Shot mean Khan of Khans received a 95?
Would love to know how you calculated that.
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Old 06-12-2011, 02:48 PM
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Would love to know how you calculated that.
I think he used a classic Texas Instruments grade school calculator and multiplied 8008 times 1.

He might have added a fifth of Jack to the equation, too.
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Old 06-12-2011, 02:54 PM
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Is they serious?

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Motion said that the timing of those Arlington races is “a good fit” and that he and Barry Irwin, the president of the Team Valor International syndicate that owns Animal Kingdom, must decide whether to run him once or twice between now and the Breeders’ Cup.
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Old 06-12-2011, 03:00 PM
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What races are they referring to?
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Old 06-12-2011, 03:04 PM
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What races are they referring to?
Arlington Million or the Secretariat is what they said.
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Old 06-12-2011, 03:08 PM
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What does a 112 for Trap Shot mean Khan of Khans received a 95? You can take that fig and wipe your butt with it.. The fig is fine what it means about Trap Shot is debatable. Jason Blewit called him the best sprinter in training on Belmont in 30. I kind of think Smiling Tiger would eat his lunch at 6 or 7.
I think Trappe Shot will beat Smiling Tiger whenever they meet.
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Okay. I thought it was about those races, plus whatever one they would use pre-BC.
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Old 06-12-2011, 05:08 PM
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I think Trappe Shot will beat Smiling Tiger whenever they meet.

Seriously?
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Seriously?
Yes. Trappe Shot, while obviously aided by the wet track like the rest of the winners, is a seriously good horse.
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Old 06-12-2011, 05:21 PM
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Seriously?
Trappe Shot is very good at what they're going to keep him doing. Smiling Tiger, while a game horse who always shows up, was better off in his stall yesterday. He will have a very difficult time beating Trappe Shot in a race like the Vanderbilt if he's shipped in for it.

Is this love for Smiling Tiger from your fascination with Twirling Candy?
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Old 06-12-2011, 05:27 PM
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Is this love for Smiling Tiger from your fascination with Twirling Candy?
Of course it is.
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Old 06-12-2011, 05:40 PM
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Of course it is.
Smiling Tiger's form has been pretty spotty since his huge effort in last year's Malibu. He made no impression on octogenarian Euroears in the Palos Verdes, broke like crap and just edged uber-bridesmaid Captain Cherokee in the San Carlos, whipped cream puffs at Oaklawn, then was nowhere Derby Day. From day one he's been campaigned aggressively and one has to think off his latest performance that he's finally come undone.

That said, if he is toast, Freddy will come on here and say that it was the loss to Twirling Candy that did him in.
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Old 06-12-2011, 05:47 PM
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Smiling Tiger's form has been pretty spotty since his huge effort in last year's Malibu. He made no impression on octogenarian Euroears in the Palos Verdes, broke like crap and just edged uber-bridesmaid Captain Cherokee in the San Carlos, whipped cream puffs at Oaklawn, then was nowhere Derby Day. From day one he's been campaigned aggressively and one has to think off his latest performance that he's finally come undone.

That said, if he is toast, Freddy will come on here and say that it was the loss to Twirling Candy that did him in.
FWIW, Smiling Tiger had an awful trip at Churchill.
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Old 06-12-2011, 05:58 PM
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Smiling Tiger's form has been pretty spotty since his huge effort in last year's Malibu. He made no impression on octogenarian Euroears in the Palos Verdes, broke like crap and just edged uber-bridesmaid Captain Cherokee in the San Carlos, whipped cream puffs at Oaklawn, then was nowhere Derby Day. From day one he's been campaigned aggressively and one has to think off his latest performance that he's finally come undone.

That said, if he is toast, Freddy will come on here and say that it was the loss to Twirling Candy that did him in.
He missed both races at Belmont he was pointing for also, right?
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Old 06-12-2011, 06:00 PM
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FWIW, Smiling Tiger had an awful trip at Churchill.
Yeah, you're right. I was too busy watching my Donald Dizney overlay get nipped by the one horse in that race I didn't want to see win.

I guess I'll wait for the Triple Bend before making any predictions.
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