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Old 12-28-2009, 08:17 PM
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No- we met at the Belmont that year. That photo link doesn't work though?
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/81...ts-Illustrated
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Old 01-02-2010, 11:53 AM
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A closer was wide in a pro-ride route at Santa Anita ... the horror. Sup' the vast majority of BC winners on that surface the last two years.

I think speed might do a little better in routes on that track if the jockeys kept their horses five paths off the rail instead of crossing over. The ground loss seems near meaningless as outside paths are often preferred and the horse might relax better so far away from the rail.

This might be the single dumbest thing I've ever argued on a message board.
I forgot a few days ago to post this, and since I'm bored....

Do mean races like this one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECQ1JXvFQUs
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Old 01-02-2010, 12:08 PM
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Yes .. just like that one.

20/1 shot Biofuel broke from extreme outside post position 12 ... was very wide throughout while racing in dead last place. Matter of fact, Biofuel was last beaten 13 lengths after a half mile.

She was fanned tremendously wide on the far turn - and bumped very hard at the top of the stretch by a horse who drifted out sharply and slammed into her - yet she was only beaten 1.5 diminishing lengths for the win.

Just because a horse races dead last early on - and goes the widest on the turn - doesn't mean they are entitled to win every single time.

Why am I wasting my time with this stuff?
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Old 01-02-2010, 01:02 PM
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Oh.

I thought the horse down on the rail up close to the lead won.
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Old 01-02-2010, 01:34 PM
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Oh.

I thought the horse down on the rail up close to the lead won.
When or where did I ever say there was a dead rail?

I didn't - because there wasn't one.

I just said there is no advantage to saving ground...there is no disadvantage to being widest on the turn .. which is where a whole hell of a lot of BC winners have come from the last two years.

I think you're crazy for so passionately believing that Looking At Lucky ran one of the entire decades 5 greatest performances in defeat just because he was wide in a slow race.
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Old 01-02-2010, 01:48 PM
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When or where did I ever say there was a dead rail?

I didn't - because there wasn't one.

I just said there is no advantage to saving ground...there is no disadvantage to being widest on the turn .. which is where a whole hell of a lot of BC winners have come from the last two years.

I think you're crazy for so passionately believing that Looking At Lucky ran one of the entire decades 5 greatest performances in defeat just because he was wide in a slow race.
lol, yes dear.

have you developed some sort of dyslexia?
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Old 01-02-2010, 01:53 PM
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No.... but.... I think it's time for a Fireside Chat with Indian Charlie.

IC ... please rate your top 5 performances in defeat by a horse over the entire past decade.

#1. Lookin At Lucky (He was wide in a SA Syn route while a close 2nd in a slow and moderate race)

#2. ?

#3. ?

#4. ?

#5. ?
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Old 01-02-2010, 03:33 PM
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Only one more day till Gulfstream opens.

This could be the greatest opening for a track I don't care about ever!
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Old 01-02-2010, 03:56 PM
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You'll miss me soon enough.
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