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10-20-2009, 05:55 PM
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#103
10-20-2009, 08:05 PM
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How about two runaway winners of the Illinois Derby.....
Greeley's Galaxy and Sweetnorthernsaint. I also don't remember much happening with Imperialism after his good third in the slop in the Derby. And I hate to say it, because he was one of my favorites, but Officer might have to be thrown into this mix. It's hard to call a horse a failure that starts 9 times with 6 wins, a second, and a third, and over 800K in earnings. But given what he looked like in his wins, that he didn't train on was truly a disappointment.
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#104
10-20-2009, 08:56 PM
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The real horses of the year (1986-2020) Manila, Java Gold, Alysheba, Sunday Silence, Go for Wand, In Excess, Paseana, Kotashaan, Holy Bull, Cigar, Alphabet Soup, Formal Gold, Skip Away, Artax, Tiznow, Point Given, Azeri, Candy Ride, Smarty Jones, Ghostzapper, Invasor, Curlin, Zenyatta, Zenyatta, Goldikova, Havre de Grace, Wise Dan, Wise Dan, California Chrome, American Pharoah, Arrogate, Gun Runner, Accelerate, Maximum Security, Gamine
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#105
10-21-2009, 02:50 AM
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Boston Harbor Rodeo
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#106
10-21-2009, 04:46 AM
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10-21-2009, 07:34 AM
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He was wide chasing a crazy fast pace in the Derby and was injured. He only ran one more time - in a very difficult spot - going 10fs off of layoff and injury and he ran a good 2nd in the Travers and that was it. He also didn't bring a heavy repute into the Wood Memorial.
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10-21-2009, 07:43 AM
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Remember how hyped Dynever was coming out of GP as a 3yo? That MoFo may go down as one of the great hangers of all-time. 0-for-9 lifetime record in Gr 1 and Gr 2 stakes. Did manage a 2nd in the Dubai World Cup and a 3rd in the Breeders Cup Classic ... but some of his defeats in lesser races were the stuff of legend. Same sire as Perfect Drift ... but PD was like a lion hearted finisher compared to him I think.
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10-21-2009, 08:30 AM
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Edit- Actually he raced one more time after the derby and was well beaten, then he was retired.
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10-21-2009, 08:33 AM
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10-21-2009, 10:07 AM
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Dollar Bill stunk. That horse was never any good IMO.
He wasn't a top 10 2yo from that crop and wasn't a top 10 3yo either IMO.
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10-21-2009, 10:19 AM
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I don't disagree, but there was certainly a fascination about him and why he was always well bet in the races he was entered in, I believe he was only 6-1 in the 2001 Final derby odds, second and no worse than 3rd choice to Point Given.
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#113
10-21-2009, 12:05 PM
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Everyone made a big deal about a visually obvious trobled trip behind Fifty Stars at the Fair Grounds ... it was in a collapsing race and it was the kind of phony trouble everyone sees and always overrates.
He was also being bet by people who wanted a deep closer because of the hot pace. Monarchos was every bit as well thought of as Point Given until Congaree beat him easily at AQU in the Wood in his stakes debut. The thumping Congaree gave him basically sent his bandwagon fleeing to the troubled sucker horse in Dollar Bill.
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