the worst jockeys ever - Page 3

Grits · #41 03-07-2007, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin

Kent D., I just don't trust him on any of his mounts these days.

I do, but only on a closer.

Someone else stated Jorge Chavez at Monmouth last year, I don't know as I don't watch Monmouth, but in the past this one's been known to run and gun. He can wait too, as he did on Derby Day with Monarchos. I watched with the crowd as he gave one of the most masterful rides I've seen.

That was great day for Georgie.

avance2000 · #42 03-07-2007, 02:20 PM

i hate to kick a guy when he is down, but i always thought that i would read this in the newspaper some day:

"There was a tragic accident at Aqueduct last night as jockey Jose Santos actually strangled a horse to death along the backstretch. Asked to comment, Santos said his horse was rank and that the animal didn't seem to understand that :49.4 for a half was way too fast of a pace for this 6 furlong race."

Sightseek · #43 03-07-2007, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by avance2000

i hate to kick a guy when he is down, but i always thought that i would read this in the newspaper some day:

"There was a tragic accident at Aqueduct last night as jockey Jose Santos actually strangled a horse to death along the backstretch. Asked to comment, Santos said his horse was rank and that the animal didn't seem to understand that :49.4 for a half was way too fast of a pace for this 6 furlong race."

Classic Chantel is when she was on a rabbit for Flower Alley (Bishop Court Hill?) and pulled the bit clear to the horses butt while having a yelling match with Johnny V.

Honu · #44 03-07-2007, 02:40 PM

There's only one thing that kept me from being a star..........talent

#45 03-07-2007, 02:43 PM

I think he's cleaning stalls now but when he was riding Ramiro Torres was absolutely the worst rider on the planet. He's cisco's brother.

Also Rafael Estrella was horrendous.

pmayjr · #46 03-07-2007, 03:05 PM

I'm not sure he belongs on this list-

But in regularly playing Tampa this winter, I have something going for me called the "Cotto curse". That dude is winning at a decent percentage, but every horse he rides that I bet come s in last in a trouble'd ride. Where's my boy Derek Bell when I need him lol?

ArlJim78 · #47 03-07-2007, 03:22 PM

scav's must be working diligently today or else we would see several paragraphs here dedicated to how bad Laviolette is. stay tuned...

Hickory Hill Hoff · #48 03-07-2007, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by robfla

here are two of the worst jockeys:

But, they do make a cute couple!

Hickory Hill Hoff · #49 03-07-2007, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Filiberto Leon-much better cookTaylor Hole-barred for life

That he is, just ask my friends...the "e-street" crew from F.P.

disappearingdan_akaplaya · #50 03-07-2007, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44

1. mike luzzi
2. jose valdivia
3. jose espinoza
4. tyler baze
5. manoel cruz last Saturday

mike luzzi are you kidding me???????? basically everytime i gotta ticket on the guy im extremely confident i will getta intelligent ride. jose espinoza doesnt bat ata high% but is 1 of the best turf jocks in the land, brings home many prices on the weeds god if you only knew how much money hes made me the last 5 years! manny cruz? id rather have him than the overrated castro(whos under 10%@ the big meet again!) in FLA anyday

ceejay · #51 03-07-2007, 07:37 PM

Travis Hightower.

Left Bank · #52 03-07-2007, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bigrun

Yeah, but she's a great looker, should go into modeling full time.....

I think she should do porn.

Left Bank · #53 03-07-2007, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

That was pretty funny. Can't imagine Pletcher was too thrilled with that. And Avance's post about Santos is very funny. Santos as a person has always been nice anytime I have been around him. But as a rider, I don't know. I guess he's alright on the turf where his style is more effective but I've never been a big fan of the "choking the will out of a horse style".

I've heard some owners call Jose "The Strangler"

MaTH716 · #54 03-07-2007, 09:24 PM

When your name is involved in a positive handicapping angle, that should be big clue.
"Mike Smith off" enough said!

I am not a big fan of Santos and Bravo either.

Scav · #55 03-07-2007, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78

scav's must be working diligently today or else we would see several paragraphs here dedicated to how bad Laviolette is. stay tuned...

LOL, I knew it, I wanted to read the whole thread to see if my guy was mentioned. HOW can you not LOVE Uriel. I actually think he is half way decent in certain situations, but you are right about him getting dragged into the winner circle, his wins are usually by open lengths. Now for the list...oh how I love this...

Sunny Ho
Taylor Hole
Liz Morris
BEVERLY ****ING BURRESS
Todd James Dupuis
Jose Espinoza
Jessica Enders
CASEY FUSILIER
ARIEL SMITH
Sidney Lejune jr.
Rajiv Maragh
Nick Meza
Isael Campo
Jesse Lantz
Mike Smith
Chantel Sutherland

LAST but not least, none other then Shane Laviolette....

There are many more but I am sick of typing about this, I won't be able to go to sleep about all the aggression towards these people.

MaTH716 · #56 03-07-2007, 10:00 PM

Also honorable mention for Mick Kinane and the wonderful job he did on Rock of Gibraltar in the 2002 Breeders Cup. (so much for the single on the Pick 6).

#57 03-08-2007, 11:41 AM

Don't know if they're the worst jockeys ever, but the worst high profile rides I've ever seen:

1) Kent Desormeaux on Real Quiet in the 1998 Belmont. I don't care what any one else says, had he waited about 3-5 more seconds to make his move, we'd have a living Triple Crown winner right now.

2) Jeremy Rose on Afleet Alex in the 2005 Kentucky Derby. The rail was dead all day and he puts Afleet Alex into a speed duel on the rail and manages to essentially lose the Triple Crown by one length. Shameful ride that doesn't get much play on these boards.

3) Ronnie Franklin on Bid in the 1979 Belmont Stakes: I cut him some slack if there really was a foot problem, but he was on Spectacular Bid. Get on his back and stay out of his way. He could've run his own race and won.

4) Stewie Elliott on Smarty Jones in the 2004 Belmont Stakes: He had the best horse in the race and ran him into the ground early. Foolish.

5) Kinane on Rock of Gibraltar in the BC Turf. Somebody has already addressed it. Rock was probably the best, most electrifying, and most talented horse in the world and somehow Kinane screwed it up.

cakes44 · #58 03-08-2007, 11:45 AM

I missed the "speed duel on the rail" by Jeremy Rose in the Derby. Afleet Alex had a decent trip for a 20 horse field in my opinion.

#59 03-08-2007, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by cakes44

I missed the "speed duel on the rail" by Jeremy Rose in the Derby. Afleet Alex had a decent trip for a 20 horse field in my opinion.

Let me rephrase..ran too close to a ridiculously hot pace.

brianwspencer · #60 03-08-2007, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FairPlay

Let me rephrase..ran too close to a ridiculously hot pace.

Alex had every single chance to put that race away in the stretch. You take him further off and who knows what happens, traffic, anything really. He had a pretty sweet trip as far as I was concerned and just couldn't put it away, no more, no less.