Obama's support for Ground Zero Mosque

dellinger63 · #1 08-14-2010, 09:21 AM

why is this even news?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100814/...o_mosque_obama

BTW IMO I feel the choice of location for the mosque is in poor taste but realize their right to build. Just as I realize the protestors and christian ministries also have a right to be on the sidewalk in front. Hopefully the President feels the same.

MaTH716 · #2 08-14-2010, 10:22 AM

I really haven't been reading all the articles involved reguarding the mosque (pretty much sick of all politics & current events). But the question I have (and I don't know if it's been addressed) is for whomever is running point on the mosque, Why do you want to be so close to ground zero, knowing the type of outrage and protests that will come with the location? It just makes no sesne.

timmgirvan · #3 08-14-2010, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716

I really haven't been reading all the articles involved reguarding the mosque (pretty much sick of all politics & current events). But the question I have (and I don't know if it's been addressed) is for whomever is running point on the mosque, Why do you want to be so close to ground zero, knowing the type of outrage and protests that will come with the location? It just makes no sesne.

...thorn in the side of the American psyche?

Nascar1966 · #4 08-14-2010, 11:09 AM

This should show everyone why this SOB is a worthless American and traitor. Impeach this worthless M Fer. Im sure in Nov 2012 the American public will again be mislead by all of his worthless talk and lies. I wonder if him and Rangel are related? I guess this imbecile forgot all about 9-11. I havent.

MaTH716 · #5 08-14-2010, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Nascar1966

This should show everyone why this SOB is a worthless American and traitor. Impeach this worthless M Fer. Im sure in Nov 2012 the American public will again be mislead by all of his worthless talk and lies. I wonder if him and Rangel are related? I guess this imbecile forgot all about 9-11. I havent.

While I don't agree with the President and many of his policies, plus the location where this group is looking to put their mosque. But, the last time I checked, it's still a free country. I'm not sure of the number of Muslims that are born in this country are, but they are well within their rights to want to bulid a mosque wherever they want.
Is it a poor choice of location and going to ruffle alot of feathers? Absolutely.

Like I said, I just don't understand why they want that location. It just seems like they are being very unsensitive to the situation by wanting to build in that area.

the_fat_man · #6 08-14-2010, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716

Like I said, I just don't understand why they want that location. It just seems like they are being very unsensitive to the situation by wanting to build in that area.

As insensitive as driving a $50k SUV and paying for your food with a subsidized food card? If you have a support system in place that knows how to subvert the process, then why would rubbing peoples' noses in it be above you?

Nascar1966 · #7 08-14-2010, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716

While I don't agree with the President and many of his policies, plus the location where this group is looking to put their mosque. But, the last time I checked, it's still a free country. I'm not sure of the number of Muslims that are born in this country are, but they are well within their rights to want to bulid a mosque wherever they want.
Is it a poor choice of location and going to ruffle alot of feathers? Absolutely.

Like I said, I just don't understand why they want that location. It just seems like they are being very unsensitive to the situation by wanting to build in that area.

If it gets built my hope is that something happens to the building. If that happens hopefully there will be no one in the mosque. Just like the moron is kissing Mexico's @ss, he will kiss the Muslims @ss'.

Danzig · #8 08-14-2010, 11:44 AM

the freedom of religion in this country must apply to all, not just to religions the majority agrees with. i don't quite get why there's such an issue about where the mosque is located. yes, the terrorists were muslim-but they did what they did because they were terrorists, not because they were muslim. can't help but wonder how many victims of their attack were muslim-or are we all to assume they were all good christian folk? before ww2, hitler made the jews a target-convincing the populace that the jewish among them were an evil-are we attempting the same thing here? i certainly hope not.

Danzig · #9 08-14-2010, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Nascar1966

If it gets built my hope is that something happens to the building. If that happens hopefully there will be no one in the mosque. Just like the moron is kissing Mexico's @ss, he will kiss the Muslims @ss'.

i find your comments on this to be disgusting. people who commit criminal acts should be treated as needed. those who happen to belong to the same religion as a criminal shouldn't be painted with the same brush.
i'm unsure of what religion tim mcveigh and his accomplice were, but i believe both were of a christian belief. if the church they belonged to wanted to build within two blocks of the murrah building, would you care? i doubt it.

we as a country cannot and should not change our behaviors based on the actions of some bad people. that would be so wrong, and so counter to what we are supposed to stand for.

brianwspencer · #10 08-14-2010, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

i find your comments on this to be disgusting. people who commit criminal acts should be treated as needed. those who happen to belong to the same religion as a criminal shouldn't be painted with the same brush.
i'm unsure of what religion tim mcveigh and his accomplice were, but i believe both were of a christian belief. if the church they belonged to wanted to build within two blocks of the murrah building, would you care? i doubt it.

we as a country cannot and should not change our behaviors based on the actions of some bad people. that would be so wrong, and so counter to what we are supposed to stand for.

He has a good point, I don't think that any churches should be able to built right near where Dr. George Tiller was murdered by a Christian.....oh, wait, that happened in a church, nevermind.

SOREHOOF · #11 08-14-2010, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

the freedom of religion in this country must apply to all, not just to religions the majority agrees with. i don't quite get why there's such an issue about where the mosque is located. yes, the terrorists were muslim-but they did what they did because they were terrorists, not because they were muslim. can't help but wonder how many victims of their attack were muslim-or are we all to assume they were all good christian folk? before ww2, hitler made the jews a target-convincing the populace that the jewish among them were an evil-are we attempting the same thing here? i certainly hope not.

Would they have been terrorists if they weren't Muslim?

Riot · #12 08-14-2010, 04:37 PM

There has been a mosque 4 blocks from the World Trade Center since before the WTC was built.

What a sad time for America, to see the bigots and haters come out of the woodwork. Pathetic to see them trash the first amendment and still call themselves Americans.

Riot · #13 08-14-2010, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan

...thorn in the side of the American psyche?

Don't speak for all Americans. Speak for the few who only believe our Constitution applies to the chosen.

Riot · #14 08-14-2010, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716

I really haven't been reading all the articles involved reguarding the mosque (pretty much sick of all politics & current events). But the question I have (and I don't know if it's been addressed) is for whomever is running point on the mosque, Why do you want to be so close to ground zero, knowing the type of outrage and protests that will come with the location? It just makes no sesne.

Because there has been multiple Islamic centers in those neighborhoods since well before World Trade Center. They want to stay. Just like the variety of churches and temples in the area.

Danzig · #15 08-14-2010, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

Would they have been terrorists if they weren't Muslim?

sure, why not. i don't think the terrorists hate us because they are muslim. they hate who we are. after all, this country has a small muslim population. i think it has more to do with actions taken, allies we have, etc.

SOREHOOF · #16 08-14-2010, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

sure, why not. i don't think the terrorists hate us because they are muslim. they hate who we are. after all, this country has a small muslim population. i think it has more to do with actions taken, allies we have, etc.

I don't think so. I think radical Islamic teaching had a lot to do with it.

SOREHOOF · #17 08-14-2010, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot

Don't speak for all Americans. Speak for the few who only believe our Constitution applies to the chosen.

I take it as an insult to America. They have a Constitutional right to do it, but I don't think it moves Muslim - American relations ahead any. As I have said before, the Constitution is pretty easy reading. Why can't anti-gun proponents read it?

Danzig · #18 08-14-2010, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

I don't think so. I think radical Islamic teaching had a lot to do with it.

really? you know, osama bin laden got his start fighting russians in afganistan. i remember reading that he hated us then, but accepted our help because he wanted the russians out. did he fight russia because he was a muslim? no, he fought them because they were invaders. then came gulf one, somalia, and of course we've been israels' chief ally since day one. i think this has more to do with the arab conflicts over the years. if he were a christian arab, i think he'd still hate us, and would still be doing what he's doing.

timmgirvan · #19 08-14-2010, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot

Don't speak for all Americans. Speak for the few who only believe our Constitution applies to the chosen.

Don't put words in my mouth! You're 'projecting" again, as usual. Try to remember that starting with a capital letter and ending with a period doesn't make a sentence, no matter what words you string together!

Rupert Pupkin · #20 08-14-2010, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot

Don't speak for all Americans. Speak for the few who only believe our Constitution applies to the chosen.

I don't think he's speaking for the few. The most recent CNN poll showed that 68% of Americans are against building the mosque while only 29% are in favor of it. I'm not saying that it proves that the majority is right. I'm just pointing out that it's a majority, not "the few".

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100814...20100814172344